/n/ - NEET

To me family nationality and religion are rotten concepts that need to be rotted out, they are chains that we final can break lose from.
I will fight these concepts where i can, those who still clinge to such ideas are backwards to me.

I have seen too much to ever think the idea of love or family bonds have any significance whatsoever, its just false.

Sometimes i like to think about these things too, but in the long term its better for me and others that i wont ever have these things and continue on with the path that i have chosen.

Stay alone, anon. It's the only sane choice.

>>16497
I could understand not choosing to have a family but to destroy it? something that is vital to a child's upbringing and character(that is to say if the parents are of good nature and are not abusive) and the health of a nation?


>I have seen too much to ever think the idea of love or family bonds have any significance whatsoever, its just false.

I disagree, I think love and family bonds are the most significant things we can have, without it then communities become a hot bed of crime and poverty
(a good example would be the African American community in America where more than half of the family households are raised by single parents)

source.

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by#detailed/1/any/false/36,868,867,133,38/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431

It's the reason why I value family, community, and religion.

>>16499
am afraid of being alone.
I want to love and be loved and devout my time for that person.

I believe I might be some sort of romantic.

>>16501
I was like you, until I realized that a waifu was the perfect solution.
You can also have a cat.

Love is just an egoistic hallucination that's going to fade eventually.
The rest is bearing.

Uh oh looks like someone's making a "you know what's wrong with society these days" argument again

>I feel like in today's society it's almost impossible, too much degeneracy is running rampant and society
That's what every generation has thought, just remember, rock 'n roll is the devil, and before that it was saxophones and Rumbleseat.

>now it's all about consuming garbage that corporations, government, and media throw out there
I think it's largely the other way around nowadays, people (like yourself) seem to fear and loathe anything coming from big government or big corporations as if they are the bogeyman. Do you have any idea how much market share McDonald's is losing? It's not because of their menu, you can go in and get a kale smoothly if you so desire. It's because the big corporations that people have come to loath, sure a lot of the food there is still garbage but it's more the stigma towards it that's pushing people away. As far as the government goes it doesn't really produce anything you can consume… But I'm sure you just at the threw that in there for good measure to fly your anti-government colors. The media is more of a gray area… I mean most of the "garbage" people consume originates not from the media but from social media, not from any group or organization but just from people.

> there isn't hasn't been a community for a while
Remember what I said about social media? That is the community now. Not that there is anything sacred about community, community can be just as harmful as they can be helpful, they can be conforming and ostracizing. It's communities that form angry mobs and communities that the one witchhunts.

Sorry if I was a dick about that, but I have a vendetta against "you know what's wrong with society these days" arguments

anyways…
You have to keep in mind the people you're asking here, a lot of people around here come from abusive or otherwise just shitty families and probably don't put much stock into "family values"
I do recall having "family values" abused as an excuse to morally justify anything, like everything is forgivable because it's family. And most importantly FAMILY STICKS TOGETHER, had that one pushed on me quite a lot because they damn well knew that as soon as I got the opportunity to get up and walk away I wasn't coming back.
The thing is that parents get to choose whether they have children and how they treat them, children don't get to choose whether they have parents or how they get treated by them, and that's terribly unfair.

As for your question I think I'd make an awful father and I wouldn't wish that on any child.

>>16503
Egotism will never fade away, so long as the self exists self-importance will as well, although I disagree that egotism is the source of love to begin with, I think it's more along the lines of world of mammals that require warmth and affection from others of our species.

>>16502
it's an inanimate object that has no thoughts or feelings, how can I have a relationship with something like that?
are you Pygmalion?

>>16504
>I think it's largely the other way around nowadays
I wouldn't think so, also I don't really look at McDonalds when I say corporations I am talking about trans pacific partnership and how the Government
would rather serve corporations (lobbyist having more of a say in congress) than the people that are the bedrock of a nation.

>Not that there is anything sacred about community, community can be just as harmful as they can be helpful, they can be conforming and ostracizing. It's communities that form angry mobs and communities that the one witchhunts

reason why I say families are important, everything can be traced back to ones own living environment and how they grew up.
a good example would be New york during the 70's, Heroin started flooding into the streets and the black community got totally destroyed in Harlem.
the mafia and people in their own community mostly targeted young adults that weren't as fortunate and that started a domino effect that even took hold of notable people in the community.

so yes I do agree with you that communities can be harmful but I would say only because people in the community (families, friends, neighbors etc.) neglect the youth and they start shifting towards something else that would fill the void a good community will most likely fill.

a video lightly touches on this actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

>like everything is forgivable because it's family. And most importantly FAMILY STICKS TOGETHER,

it's good you brought that up, at what point does a "family" stop being a family?
some websites would define it as a group of people with the same bloodline as you but I think there is more to a family than just having a common ancestor.
I would say a family is people that look out for one another and provide an emotional and a (good) moral backbone.

>children don't get to choose whether they have parents or how they get treated by them, and that's terribly unfair.
Yes it's horrible but hopefully people that have faced such torment find happier lives.

here's a documentary I watched earlier this year where a kid was raised in an abusive household and was highly anti-social but later on healed with proper care from her parents and therapy.
she later on became a nurse iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-Re_Fl_L4

>As for your question I think I'd make an awful father and I wouldn't wish that on any child.

maybe

>>16505
>it's an inanimate object that has no thoughts or feelings, how can I have a relationship with something like that?
Heh, I pity you for thinking that way.

>are you Pygmalion?
Yes, modern times, modern solutions.

Get a cat. Or abandon all hope. There's only despair.

>>16506
Well no shame in that, I hope you fall love in your dolls.
maybe when we star advancing into the future we will be able to make AI dolls that would fit the role of a spouse.
maybe even upload some Anime girls into her so she can be the perfect waifu.


>>16507
I find having a 2d waifu in close conjunction in Idol worship, heck you would be surprised of the people that actually believe into Lain
also pic related

>>16505
>it's an inanimate object that has no thoughts or feelings, how can I have a relationship with something like that?
Go back to facebook.

>>16509
But he is right.
Even so.
Even so.

>>16508
>maybe when we star advancing into the future we will be able to make AI dolls that would fit the role of a spouse.
I would never accept AI. I don't have a waifu to have a waifu and not feel lonely. I fell in love with someone fictional. AI wouldn't be then even if it designed to be like a specific waifu it'd just be an imitation and nothing more. Honestly there's people outside of waifuism who idealize their significant other into something as abstract as waifu all the time.

>maybe even upload some Anime girls into her so she can be the perfect waifu.
I don't want a perfect waifu. I just want my waifu, who has done quite a few things that are far from "perfect".

>>16508
Also yeah people believe lain exist, I sort of do too. But it's not like that's been uncommon for humans to do. Look at all the gods that exist.
Some waifuism does fall under worship but that's not a majority of. Not many worship their waifu. For me it's more that I see him as a close friend who I'm commited to in a sort of pledge. If he some how became real and said he didn't like me romantically it would upset me but I'd be okay as long as he was happy.

>>16500
The way i see it most parents are unfit to be parents these days and only chose to have children because of simple biological or sometimes even social presure and later neglect their children or attempt to control them and use them to compensate for their own shortcomings in life.
Strong family ties are an exception and not the rule, its just that people try very hard to delude themselfs rather than looking things in the eye, if people would not try to force things on to themselfs than more loose relationships would be common and if not misused better than what we have now.
All this love, relationship crap is currently on all sides extremes, on one end you have that classical monogamy crap where people force each other into this family crap and on the other people who just have one night stands and meaningless sex and there are ofcourse these poor souls who are rejected entirely and withdraw from all social things because of all the presure applied.

Family, nationality and religion were once nececary for our survival, but no longer, the individual can chose to reject these ideas and be free to pursue more meaningful paths of his own without much negative consequences.
Divorces and breakups and less religous influnces happen not because of evil corporates want to gain power but because we dont need these values anymore, i think families were always, if not even more, such fragile constructs and people had liked to do these things, but simply could not, now they can.

The way i see it that these concepts trap us rather than connect us, many are forced on their families ideas rather than being encouraged to chose who they are and develop themselfs freely in the environment they see fit to be.
Society is very static in this regard and in many cases the concept of family is untouchable even tough individual in many cases must suffer horribly because of this.

Wouldnt it be better if we were all each others brothers and sisters and just people rather than have our upbringing define us, able to chose what we are and where we belong too.
>>16511
>Also yeah people believe lain exist,
@_@

>>16508
>maybe even upload some Anime girls into her so she can be the perfect waifu.
>I find having a 2d waifu in close conjunction in Idol worship, heck you would be surprised of the people that actually believe into Lain

No niggah, no… shit…. that's not how waifuism works…
facebook may be a better place for you, go there. Or tumblr. Or reddit. But not here.

>>16512
Is it so?
A tall building.
With a weak base.
May not always be the case.

Like ancient times.
Being alone means one.
Opposed to survival.
Where we are now.

I believe in else.
Purpose or destiny.
We have one.
Meaning all.

We were all blessed.
With the gift of life.
The candle may be faint.
But we can see it burned bright.

Facebook pls go and stay go

>>16511
hmm then I am truly stumped, I don't think I'll ever get waifuism, but then again I don't delve much into anime culture.

>>16509
>>16515
please excuse me if I sound like a normie, I just want to know peoples opinions on this subject.
report the thread if you see it as an issue.

>>16512
>most parents are unfit to be parents these days and only chose to have children because of simple biological or sometimes even social presure

I actually see this a lot here, most people don't plan these things long term and then they are faced with problems and issue that arrive and they are not prepared.
I want prevent such a thing (or at least damage control it as best as I can if it arises) if it ever happens.
god forbid I pass and there's no one to be the breadwinner.

>Family, nationality and religion were once nececary for our survival, but no longer, the individual can chose to reject these ideas and be free to pursue more meaningful paths of his own without much negative consequences.

I believe otherwise, without a sound family the nation will be susceptible to harmful influences that will target it's youth (drugs and alcohol) and make the general populace sicken with strife.
I also believe religion to be important due to it's nature to unite people of different social and racial backgrounds together (at least when it comes to Christianity from my experience, Judaism from what I understands considers non jews cattle while Islam is more of a destructive force, but like all Abrahamic religions they are paved with blood, with the Pagan genocide committed by Christian and Islam with it's prophet Muhhamed burning down cities and forcefully converting the local populace into his religion)

>>16517
A lot of people don't have waifus and are not normies, you just don't seem to understand what a waifu is, it's just very typical in our sub-culture, reason of why you seem like an outsider.

Some people just have them as a shitty meme, some people lack affection, some people just feel it the same way as a "real" couple without all the problems and responsabilities, and some people just felt emotionally attached to a fictional character for no reason at all, this tells you the whole waifu thing works exactly like "love" for some, there are many, many reasons.

Regardless if romantic feelings are real emotions or a bunch of chemical reactions, if the conditions are right, they can come into frution no matter who or what the person is.

>>16518
>romantic feelings are real emotions or a bunch of chemical reactions, if the conditions are right, they can come into frution no matter who or what the person is.

What you did there, I saw it…

>>16519
Shh

>>16496
Interest in abandoning neet life, and getting a job, not interested in getting a wife or even starting a family.
Do you happen to browse /pol/, what you write, reminds me of the average /pol/ack?

>>16496
I think I have similar objectives. However, I do not want a wife because I am gay.

>>16518
>Some people just have them as a shitty meme, some people lack affection, some people just feel it the same way as a "real" couple without all the problems and responsabilities, and some people just felt emotionally attached to a fictional character for no reason at all, this tells you the whole waifu thing works exactly like "love" for some, there are many, many reasons.

yeah this pretty much all the answers I got when I asked what a waifu is, most of the people I ask "do you have a waifu?" said yeah and they name five different characters, I think most anons commonly use waifu as a way to express deep liking to a character and not in the literal sense that shes your dearly beloved.

>>16521
not /pol/ but I do share some similar interest with a few /pol/acks

>>16519
This person doesn't seem qualified to be the Emperor of Virgins. I can tell by his appearance alone.
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