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 No.10897

This is a picture of a company where the people who work there are by many considered being succesfull. The slogan reveals the idea many people have that if you work hard and do something specitic better than others, you too might be able to work in a place where such expectional people work and be called succesfull as well.

I assume that being part of society requires one to compete with others in various aspects in prospect of various rewards, such as social validation, income and sex, in the hope that in the end will aid one to become happier or as happy as others. Some decided or found out that they aren't fit to be part of and compete in society. Is it possible while being a social creature to become happy and/or as happy as people who are part of society and compete in it?

I am afraid most of us cannot as most of us are not built in such a way. Fighting against our nature is a battle we will lose in the end.
However, not everyone has as much chance in life to become as happy as others can become.

Many cannot quit the ratrace, but at the same never have a fair chance at competing.

How can one live with this contradiction?

 No.10898

I don't.

Unless I was already inclined to work for such an employer things like being part of an energetic team or mastering some art of sales do not appeal to me in the slightest.
Not wanting to be in a competitive situation is probably a big part of NEEThood.
It's not like I don't have a drive. Not like I can't be inspired. I just have no patience for those kinds of situations. I want security, routine, procedure and most of all comfort.
In the end such things are simply not targeted at me. They're intended for Ford Driving Extroverts.

 No.10902

I don't see life that way… I only got introduced to the idea when I started avidly browsing imageboards. I'm not competitive, but I don't think you need to be to do what you want to do and be happy every day. I don't have an answer to it, but that's what I believe. One day I'll find my way, and you will too.

 No.10905

>>10897
If i wasnt so tired i could come up with a deeper analysis of things, but right now i think its just a poster to motivate people to work harder so the company can keep most of the profits.

Also i guess to be happy you need to do what you are good at to get satisfaction. Then again i wouldnt know, i never was happy.

 No.10910

(Sorry if this comes off as only semi-related, it might be but it's what I thought up after reading your post OP.)
One of the more interesting instances of cognitive dissonance in most people's minds is the acceptance of the necessity of an endless, seemingly pointless pursuit of some vague end-goal of wealth and success coexisting with the knowledge that we're all fragile, mortal beings whose existences will end soon enough anyway and that struggling endlessly to achieve some often rather vaguely defined success is, in a sense, wasting your life, especially if you already have the resources to do things you actually want to do.

If I remember correctly beyond a certain point of income, it actually isn't even that big of a factor where a person's happiness is concerned. Those who are considered successful seem to often be simply addicted to securing wealth and/or power as possible, which can in itself be pleasurable to a certain type of person, but probably not too many of those who would find themselves on this board for any amount of time that suggests something more than a passing curiosity in this place, unless they're simply here to laugh at those who occupy it.

I don't really want to compete, I'll probably end up either in some menial position or in college and still extremely alienated, but there are things I want to be able to achieve and experience, and being a NEET seems to preclude some of them, so my being one will probably be temporary.

I doubt I'll ever be truly content or happy for any significant stretch of time, but I don't think it has too much to do with my tendency toward being NEET or introverted.

I think that the appearance of happiness when it comes to a lot of people in society is really the result of their efforts not to seem dissatisfied, and that there isn't much genuine, prolonged contentment anywhere. It's a necessary and significant aspect of the that it is human mind perpetually in need of some new accomplishment or experience or sensation to be content, and this seems to mostly prevent lasting happiness from being within reach. I think that in the few cases where there might be it has far more to do with personal accomplishments and fulfillment than competition.

 No.10912

Chance and coincidence plays the biggest role in someone's life, in my opinion.
You didn't choose your parents, they raised you like shit and once you are an "adult" , you are expected to be and act like the fortunate ones who by circustances aquired all of the skills to be successful.
Being "hardworking" is just one of this skills.

 No.10913

personally I'm just aiming to take it easy

 No.10914

ugh, the OP picture reminds me of all those job ads where they want 'energetic/enthusiastic etc' people. The whole competing for things is tiring, kinda why I've never bothered to apply for jobs. There'd already be a handful of people that want it or could do a better job, they don't REALLY need me. I'd like something like a shelf packing job, or some kind of groundskeeping thing where I just look after something and get enough money to live.

 No.10915

>>10914
> The whole competing for things is tiring, kinda why I've never bothered to apply for jobs. There'd already be a handful of people that want it or could do a better job
Wow, that's defeatist. You're doing them a disservice by not trying your best and not letting them actually prove they could do a better job than you. I think it's disgusting of you to just allow them easier access to work (and, by extension, money) at your expense.

@OP:
Indeed, life is all about competition. I don't see a contradiction here. If some people decided they are unfit to be part of society, then they should probably die. Ultimately, other people is all we really have in life. Without them there would be no Uboachan, nobody to reply to your post.

I don't think it's good to take oneself so seriously and wax philosophical too much. To me, life is somewhat like a game. We all just want to have some fun by competing with others, experiencing vertigo and altered states of consciousness, playing roles given to us by society and enjoying the unpredictability of the world and other people. And so, like in video games, crying about how trash you are does not work, and the only solution is to GIT GUD or to cheat.

 No.10916

Everyone has their own specific recipe for being happy. If all you need is a decent job and a couch to sit in the evening while you watch TV and drink beer, it's easy and cheap to accomplish. The problem comes when the only method you have to be happy is to feel better than your peers, which is the genesis of the so-called "rat race". If you have to compete against others over who has the best car, or the prettiest girlfriend, or the fanciest tech gadgets, you will never win because there will always be someone richer than you; also, you'll be poor because you're spending all your money on stuff you don't need.

It is actually relatively simple to be happy without socializing at all, much less competing in this fashion, if you're an extreme introvert and recluse. Just find a job that makes you feel fulfilled and pays the bills, and work on what you really want to do as a hobby on the side. If you can figure out a way to get paid for doing what you like doing, all the better.

One might say that this kind of being contradicts the natural social makeup of the human being, as you mentioned. But I counter with the simple truth that anyone that comes here is probably more introverted than most, for various reasons. Thus, we are already abnormal; why not embrace it?

 No.10922

>>10915
> Wow, that's defeatist. You're doing them a disservice by not trying your best and not letting them actually prove they could do a better job than you. I think it's disgusting of you to just allow them easier access to work (and, by extension, money) at your expense.
The whole rat race is made by rich people to have poorer people slave themselfs out voulentery, they are the ones to earn the fruit of other peoples labor and put make one another fight like dogs, atleast partially.

That aside, you shouldnt blame anyone for not wanting to compete with others. Let anyone judge what is and is not worth fighting for themselfs and do what one thinks he might excel at in whatever he sees fit.

 No.10924

>>10922

>You're doing them a disservice by not trying your best and not letting them actually prove they could do a better job than you. I think it's disgusting of you to just allow them easier access to work (and, by extension, money) at your expense.


This is one of the most inspiring things I've read on this god-forsaken board.

 No.10925

>>10915

>you're doing them a disservice

Oh is that so? Why should I do anything for them? Just so they can prove that yes, they can do the job better?

>@OP

I'm not even going to touch this.

>Indeed, life is all about competition. I don't see a contradiction here.

No it isn't. The idea that life is all a competition is an invention of modern society, late-stage capitalism, etc. It isn't some primal truth or anything. Humans became what they are through cooperation, otherwise we'd never have made civilization in the first place.

> We all just want to have some fun by competing with others

What if I don't find competition fun?

>playing roles given to us by society

Why should I compete if I'm given a role? Who decided this role?

>And so, like in video games, crying about how trash you are does not work, and the only solution is to GIT GUD or to cheat.

Except I can choose not to play a videogame.

Overall, I think this poster is just shithead consumerist capitalism trying to extract more productivity out of people.

 No.10926

I hate the idea of working for a big company, constantly seeking attention and reward at the mercy of your Jewish masters.

I'd much rather be self-employed, running a small business that I'd built from the ground up and knowing that my success or failure is in my hands completely.

 No.10942

>>10922
>you shouldnt blame anyone for not wanting to compete with others.
No, if you think you are right and they are doing something terribly wrong and that bothers you, then you should just go ahead. Nothing bad will happen. It's good to discuss things.

That's odd. This thread is cross-posted on Hikkichan and some posts from here end up on there and maybe vice versa. That makes it a bit harder to figure out who you're really conversing with, where they are posting from.

 No.10945

I have been trying to learn to live for myself. Trying to find something that can make me feel content in and of itself, without having to avail myself or my findings to another person for validation. I have been actively culling away aspects of my life that are competitive in nature, or aspects that cause me to seek validation from others.

I used to have a hard time dealing with the fact that I am not the best at anything, and I will live a probably middle of the road existence. It took me a long time to realize that there is more to life than proving yourself to your peers. I don't want to have to compete with others to feel ok about myself, that is probably one of the main reasons I have withdrawn from most social settings.

 No.10954

>>10942

yea i checked aswell lol, looks like some of the posts get there, but others dont XD

 No.10983

I find competition against myself and my surroundings to be much more fulfilling. Why slight your own species when there is potato blight to avoid and weeds to pull before sundown?

 No.11020

>>10926
I wish I could undertake such a thing, but I'm not a risk-taker. So I rather go for job-security,

 No.11031

What's going on here? The exact same thread is on Hikkichan as well and I'm sure I posted >>11020 over there and not here.

Are some threads carried over?

 No.11035

>>11031
>>11031
No one has posted over there in over two days.

 No.11040

>>11035
So? Doesn't change the fact that the same thread is posted over there, with a comment I wrote *there* that somehow ended up *here*.

 No.11043

>>11040
2spooky4me

 No.11045

>>11031
>>11040
Nah it's just you. Seek help



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