/fg/ - Fangames

Dude who cares? They are good because they are japanese

>>10365
True shit, yo. Amerecana fangames can never compare to the god-tier games that flow out of Japan, no matter how beautiful.

>>10366

>god-tier games that flow out of japan

don't you mean .flow out of japan? scrub

They seem really hellbent on never doing anything new with their fangames. Maybe it's their culture or something.

>>10366

Because they know how to make something good while working (mostly) within the boundaries of a pre-established concept. If they wanted to make something completely different, they would.

While the English side focuses on "Look at me, I'm a special little snowflake. I'm so clever and different. MY game isn't like THEIR game. MY game is UNIQUE!!11one!1"

>>10384
>Because they know how to make something good while working (mostly) within the boundaries of a pre-established concept.

I really disagree. It's not a concept you can really do much with, so if the execution isn't completely awful it appears competent by default. In short, not difficult to do. Why congratulate them for being safe with one of the simplest, easiest concepts to make a "game" from?

>While the English side focuses on "Look at me, I'm a special little snowflake. I'm so clever and different. MY game isn't like THEIR game. MY game is UNIQUE!!11one!1"

On the other hand, I agree with this. You can "push boundaries" while just being every bit as lazy and unimaginative as your counterpart. Usually this involves everyone pushing the boundaries in the exact same way and mostly being hot air while delivering games that, as FGs seem alright and unique for a short time, but as actual games are really lackluster even for no-budget indie titles. Or they don't ever come out.

The new FLUX for example, is superior-looking and sounding to the old FLUX, which was a lazy "cash-in" fangame. On the other hand though, the graphics are still really amateurish and the writing that was added is… questionable, to say the least. I can't judge too much as it's not out yet (and for my cynical money, it won't ever be out) but there's enough material floating around to temper my personal hype because I can now compare it to other no-budget indie games as opposed to just fangames.

Also there's the fact that fans of the different types have a vast gulf in terms of the amount of choices.

Fans of the "eastern-style" or YN clones have a lot to choose from, and there's a large number of popular, well-maintained examples and games that can keep you busy for at least a few hours each as you sample or complete them all. They're all pretty samey for the most part, but if that's what you want, then you have a lot of choices and recommendables, such as Ultra Violet or Yume Graffiti.

For the "western style" or games which at least cite heavy inspiration from Yume Nikki, you don't have nearly as many choices. You're stuck with the passing small game (which gets a 0.00 and then the developer quits), or waiting for Owl, Bleet, M-256 or Mishka to update. Everyone else likes to talk about their game more than actually making it, so if you're not a fan of those four you really don't have much else to look forward to.

>>10374
meanwhile the west hasn't produced anything of worth comparable to 2kki or .flow. maybe it's their culture or something?

>>10450
Seriously 2kki and .flow are like the best excuse for any argument, EVER.
Not to mention they are overrated as hell…
Do you japles have anything else to say than 2kki and .flow?

>>10451
LCDDem

>>10451
can you name anything better mr contrarian? especially from the western side? come on man it's just simple facts.

>>10453
Not that anon, but Miserere and Gnosis are my favorite western fonfgomz and they are pretty good.

>>10450

>meanwhile the west hasn't produced anything of worth comparable to 2kki or .flow.

It's probably going to depend on what you're looking for when it comes to whether or not who has produced anything of worth. If you're wanting a game like 2kki or .flow, they already exist and fill the need handily.

I personally thought Miserere was better than either, but it was smaller and more focused as well, so it just wouldn't have the same appeal. Apples and oranges basically.

(I'm >>10455 again, wish there was an edit button)

Also, Me was a pretty sprawling and enjoyable game and that came from the west.

>>10452
Sucks ass
>>10453
Even if I give you an example or not, your two good pieces won't change the fact that 99/100 japgames are just copies.

>>10454
Gnosis and Miserere kick their eastern asses btw

>>10457
LCD Dem is better than a lot of western fangames, though…

>>10458
Gnosis and Miserere are better than a lot of eastern fangames, though…

>>10454

>>10459
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>>10457
>>10453
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>>10450
Ladies, ladies

None of them will ever be as good as Yume Nikki was

>>10459
I am the one who posted about gnosis and miserere too, I just don't stay in one side of the sea just because "ITS DAI NIPPUN MUST BE GUUD" or "It's japanese, therefore a mere copy".

>boo boo whatever u think is bad becasue its not wat i liek

>>10460
Someday>YN
Someday>All

>>10462
>someday
>no Dickme Dicki
fag

>>10461
Doesn't change the fact that a lot of shits are considered good becaue they are japanese, while they are just shits, most of them copies, and Miserere&Gnosis are better than most of them.

>boo boo whatever u think is bad becasue its not wat i liek
I never said or implied that milady, p-please calm down

>>10464
i feel like you've never played either of those games and just picked up their names from this thread

>>10464
>milaidy

It's お嬢-様, OJOU-SAMA

>>10465
Your feelings don't change the fact that they are better than most of them.

Are we really that dry and starved for games that we're having this argument again? There are posts in this very forum about updates to (good) games from both sides of the pond and we're acting like they don't exist.

>>10467
bait confirmed

ITT: Chesir and Seagal

I miss when this place used to have bright-eyed devs looking to show off their new stuff, but now we're consumed with infighting every week because the only people left are primarily trolls, or at least they're the most active ones.

Tumblr's not any better in the slightest, but this thread isn't really painting a good picture (or most of the /fg/ threads in recent memory that were not the dev fun/mock thread)

>>10471
Don't be like that I mean, OP is "Why are all nippon fangames the same shit" what did you expect?
>Tumblr
Let's not… Let's NOT

>>10470
Crap, they found out.
Retreat everybody, commies are heading this way.

>>10471
All this last activity we had these past 2 weeks are just random sprouts of stupid "no im better then u" "prove me wrong fegget" "ever1 ITT must sux my dick" kind of forced fights.

>>10472

Yeah but this garbage has basically spilled into pretty much every /fg/ thread that isn't about a game, pushing them all off the front page and displaying to the public that what we actually care the most about is who fucked up this week.

>>10474
Right, you have Mishka's thread in page 1, there are others not so far away, why not just giving them a bump then?
We could easily get back in track to the time in where devs were not divas.

>>10385

>I really disagree. It's not a concept you can really do much with, so if the execution isn't completely awful it appears competent by default. In short, not difficult to do. Why congratulate them for being safe with one of the simplest, easiest concepts to make a "game" from?

I'll give you that because you're right.
I guess I've just grown cynical on the subject; largely because of this.

>On the other hand, I agree with this. You can "push boundaries" while just being every bit as lazy and unimaginative as your counterpart.

Just because (insert western game here) added text or some other basic concept to its game doesn't suddenly make it creative, or even good.