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 No.10971

The people I live with as a NEET, while providing me with basic life necessities, are suffocating me. My imagination, usually vibrant and without limits, dies out around them and I become jaded, just like them. It's not their fault, that's just the way they are and I can't do much about that. My room used to be bound by dark curtains so that I was able to immerse and distract myself from their presence, but this is not the case anymore. Now I'm stuck having to acknowledge that they are on the other side of the door.

I could somehow use this longing to live alone in a place far away to get a job, but then I would be locked into a lifelong contract of misery, going by the assumption that they wouldn't let me come back to live with them for nothing once they've seen that I am "capable" of holding down a job. And I doubt I'd want to, anyway, at that point. It seems like either way is a dead end.

/n/, can you tell me about the people you live(d) with during your days as a NEET and how you felt being around them? Do you prefer solitude or company?

 No.10973

The people I live with are thankfully gone most of the week. When they return though it feels extremely bad, like they suck joy and life out of the air. I am happiest when I'm alone.

 No.10979


 No.11025

I'm just letting you know you sound like a giant faggot. Nothing wrong with being a NEET but you sound like you think you're too good to have a job or interact with them. You're lucky enough that they haven't forced you to get a job or something. It's not their responsibility to take care of you at this point.

 No.11027

>>11025
No need for that, really. I'm just expressing my true feelings. I'm sorry if they made you angry.

 No.11028

I try to talk to people but they ignore me or are living such different lives neither of us can keep the conversation going very long.

I just feel despair around everyone unless something funny happens. Everyone my family brings into the house seems run down and angry like they're waiting for a revolution.

 No.11029

I still live with my parents (I'm 26). They're mostly okay with me still living at home, but of course our daily interactions are not without annoyances. It's becoming especially problematic to deal with dad now that he's getting forgetful. I do pity him though, so I always try to keep a cool head while having to explain the same things multiple times per day. Mom doesn't handle dads forgetfulness well, which bothers me a lot. Apart from that, it's mostly smooth sailing around here.

Still, I'm in the process of looking for my own place to stay, and I know this entails having to become part of the workforce again. It's quite stressful to think of, but I rather spread my wings before it's too late. As we both know that most NEETs can't stay unemployed forever.

I think you'd do wise to contemplate the same, really.

 No.11030

I never interacted with them much. I didn't go out of my room except to cook or use the bathroom. I remember one of my roommates being angry that all he knew about me is that I really liked ramen. He was kindof the boss of the house but he didn't give me shit because I had no impact. When he moved out, my other roommate tried to kick me out but it turned out that we all got kicked out because the house's owner's son was going to move in. I moved into a much better place with only 1 roommate who hardly ever here. Although, it does make me feel bad when he has his girlfriend over and I can hear them fucking.

 No.11049

I feel you OP. I live with my grandma and NEET uncle and it's fucking horrible. I love my grandma but she's beyond passive aggressive and it causes a lot of problems for everybody on an ongoing basis. I could complain about her more but it just feels wrong because she does a lot for me. My uncle is a lot worse. He's extremely immature and makes a fucking rock look self-aware. He's seriously what you would expect someone who has been browsing 4chan into their mid 30's to be like, had they never moved beyond /b/. Because that's actually exactly how it is. I don't even know where to start; I could talk shit about him for days, but I won't. He's insufferable 99% of the time but it's hard for me to hate him because he does a lot of little shit for me. Like he'll go to the store to get whatever but he'll bring me back some snacks even though he doesn't even have a stable income. He recently came back from a trip out of state and brought me back a bunch of fireworks you can't get here (California). So yeah. He goes and does shit like that and it's like how can I hate this guy? And it's not like he just does this shit to win me over, it's very obvious that he does it because he actually does care about me. It's got me torn.

Basically, living with them is really depressing and wears down on me over time, for a multitude of reasons. And the worst part is, I don't even have my own room. I'd give anything to have my own sanctuary to retreat to, but instead I'm stuck sleeping on a mattress in what used to be a living room. The only time I ever have any solitude is around 11pm-5am, and then they wonder why I always stay up so late and sleep through as much of the day as possible.

 No.11053

>>11049
I'm sorry. That sounds really hard to live with, especially not being able to have your own room. I'm sure you will be able to find solace in a place you feel good in eventually.

 No.11055

Yea, I know that feel OP.

I'd tell you about my situation, but i really really really really don't want to whine.

I just need to get out from here and move somewhere far away. I can't stand it. I need someone supportive because I've already been told many times that I'm useless. OK, that's true, but I honestly do want to get a job and move already.

It's just… I've spent most of my life on the computer. I know how to do stuff with it, but that's about all I'm good for right now. I'm getting better with people, but I have yet to cross the large gap between a normal person and a creepy shut-in who can't into social interaction. Right now I'm somewhere in between.

 No.11057

>>11055
>Right now I'm somewhere in between.
Yeah. It's kind of weird, isn't it?

And if you share what is troubling you, it might make you feel better. That's what the thread is here for, if you need it.

 No.11058

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I live with an extended family that includes,
My Grandma, My Uncle, My Aunt, My Mom, My Dad, My two Brothers and My mentally and physically disabled cousin for a week every other week, all in a house that was meant for four.

It's a small hell here.

 No.11095

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Im currently living with my mom, grandma, cousin and aunt in a house thats falling apart in some places and is hardly fit for human habitation. Theres electricity going through one wire and so I cant use a computer or get internet (coming to you from my phone)

Im terrified of my mentally ill aunt. Her doctor has said she has the mentality of a teenager despite being 47, but that doesnt excuse her from being as rude as she is, especially to my mom. My mom let her use our old apartment as her own, which eventually led to our eviction and is why Im coming to you from my phone at my grandmas house. She misplaces things then blames my mom for stealing them. She would even give my mom death threats, leave, then come back the next day acting like nothing happened without even saying sorry.

Im constantly afraid shes going to get violent on my mom and I. Either that or she'll put my mom in the hospital by making her blood pressure soar.

Im not even lucky enough to live in the city for this. Im in the literal forest so if she gets violent, theres no where to run.

Im looking forward to leaving here

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 No.11098

I recently moved in with my dad and my step mom, I prefer being by myself but it's nice to pop out a visit now and then. It's strange though, i think i get along better with her than my dad, it's not like we don't like each other, we do, we even have very similar interests and world views, but for some reason it's easier to talk to her

 No.11122

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I live with my big sister, mother, and brother-in-law. I steer very clear of them, even making the occasional effort to avoid them encountering me when I leave my room to get food or use the bathroom. I have no friends, but that works out because I do prefer to be alone most of the time. I spend basically 100% of my life holed up in my room (which I am very thankful to have to myself). I might come out and talk to people if it weren't for the fact that they despise me. They're the ones who shut me out of their life and stopped talking to me in the first place, so I figured if they ever decided to give a damn about me again, they'd come and knock on my door, or at least try to talk to me on IM. (They don't.)

As far as I can tell, they're all very ashamed of me, and we have a sort of silent contract/agreement to pretend like I don't exist. So long as I stay out of the way enough that they can keep pretending, they won't have to kick me out.

 No.11123

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I live with my mum, dad and older sister [whom is a temporary resident]. I'm pretty resentful to my family, with the exception of my relatives and my grandparents, due to the fact that, as a little kid, they mistreated me not knowing that I had Aspergers [LET THE FLAMES COMMENCE].

Once they learned that I had this, they changed their attitude on me and tried to help me out. But sadly, the damage had already been done, and what happened in the past, I cannot forgive even into the future. And since most of them have their own problems to tend to, I really don't give a damn on them anymore. Dad's losing his hearing which is getting annoying WAY too fast to deal with, and my mum is too busy with her work.

The only people I care about are my grandparents on BOTH sides, and my internet friends. I don't have much in the way of any real life friends but whatever. I'm pretty happy with what I got.

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 No.11181

I sort of understand what you mean. My parents are the really depressing, ultra-pessimistic-realist types of people. As a kid I wanted to do things with my life, and they discouraged me from joining a music group at school, and learning to draw or write.

I try not to blame them, but I think parents have a pretty big impact on their kids. Now I'm stuck with no motivation or sense of self because I always told myself I would do what my parents wanted and nothing else until I got out of their house.

Now I'm still living with them and I've lost the desire to do anything. I just feel stuck and lazy. I wish I had actually tried to be myself and learn what I was really like when I had the chance.

This entire post was really whiny and nearly off-topic, but I hope someone knows what I mean. In short, I just don't think my family has given me a chance to grow into a real person.

 No.11189

>>11181
This is a lot of blame-shifting going on. You fucking manchild coward.

 No.11190

>>11189
That doesn't help at all. Another human being just like you, why do you say these hurtful things?

 No.11191

>>11190
Fuck off you garbage baby nerd. I don't care how many paragraphs of self-indulgent Depressed White Teen Guy bs you write, you're still a weenie baby loser.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

 No.11199

>>11190
That's how you talk idiots out of dwelling on the past and not owning up to the decisions they made.

 No.11205

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>>11181
I turned out very pessimistic due to all the times life has fucked me over since I was 12 despite my overly optimistic mom.

I wouldnt say that parents dont have any impact on how their kids turned out, but you shouldnt shift the blame on them like that.

 No.11207

>>11199
I think it's true deppressed people need to be able again to take control of their lives.

But you can't just buckshot them with "lmao coward lazy neet get a job xD".

I think it's like a slippery slope: They need to increase their motivation and self-worth step by step, in small increments, so as not to cause resistance or opposition.
If you try to force it they get blocked. They, and anyone else would, this is an universal mechanism.

 No.11242

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I like both but like all things, in moderation. Most of my time is spent in solitude as my NEET schedule keeps me awake during the night hours. I only live with my mother, but it is not rare to see the rest of my family come around. This family would be my sister and brother, but most importantly my sister's daugher, with whom I spend most of my time with.

As I said earlier, I spend most of my time alone, but during the days or weeks in which I'm awake during the "normal" hours, I spend them with my niece. The activites are very simply, I image you all are very familiar with them if you have a young family member. The simplest activity of simply being in the same room fills me with some enjoyment.

There are other occasions when some of the extended family come over, them being my aunts, which are plenty. I don't know these people well and am not comfortable with them, so when they are around I spend my day in my room or just fall asleep until they leave.

Lastly I'd like to note being awake during the same hours my mother is awake fill me with a certain emotion, or rather helps evade any feelings of lonliless. My mother is not one who bothers me about my NEET life so there's no problem there.

 No.11292

when i lived with my dad and grandma they didn't understand i was trying to move out and constantly sabotaged all of my fun. my grandma is losing her mind and constantly does things she cant remember. she gets in fights she cant remember starting that usually start with some question loaded with pretense that i answered before, and then she tries to make me feel bad for failing. when i tell her i dont appreciate that she blew up and forgot why she was mad. it was impossible to deal with.

my dad constantly accused me of being the reason he was stuck with his mom even though i payed the rent and entirely for my own food. he would try to get in my face every time he wanted to feel like a man. he also involved some meth addict to become a part of the family who was abusive to every single person in the house in one way or another. everyone blamed me for the first good while. i would almost certainly be targeted any time i went outside of my room so i just didn't for a long time, i rehabilitated myself very slow to a somewhat functional state after three years, two of which were spent with little to no contact with the outside.

 No.11327

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>>11049
My uncle thinks I sleep in too late so this morning at around ~10am he started squirting me with a hairspray bottle when I was laying in bed trying to sleep. I tried to ignore it and just pull the covers over my body to shield myself and that worked for a minute but then he turned on the TV by my bed and turned the volume as loud as it goes. I waited for him to walk away and then I got up and turned it off, then got back in bed. As soon as I got back in bed he did it again so I flipped out and told him to fuck off. Of course he plays it off like I'm just being dramatic and that he was "just messing around" except in reality the only reason he was doing it was to show off (my little sister was over and he always acts up like this when my mom or sister are around; keep in mind he is 30 years old). So I woke up in a horrible mood when I normally wouldn't even be awake yet, and I can't seem to shake it. I was supposed to go to dinner with all them and some of my other family but I doubt I'll be going now. I'm being kind of a baby but whatever man. At least he's moving out in like 3 weeks, and then I probably won't see him for a couple years, and I'll get his bedroom (so fucking excited to have my own room again, you don't even know).

 No.11332

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Presently, I live with my mother, my father, my older sister, and my two younger brothers. I'm indescribably fortunate in that they're all agreeable and generally pleasant. That said, I prefer being alone, as the physical company of others tires me when I'm deprived of any intervening periods of solitude.

Soon, however, I'll have to move in with three other people, none of whom I know. Additionally, I'll have to share a room with one of them. I'm hoping that they'll be nice; at the very least, I hope they won't destroy or pawn away my possessions.


>>10973
>>10979
Is there a reason why they make you feel that way? As in, are those feelings a result of some behavior of theirs, or does their mere presence bother you?


>>11028
I know the feeling. Perhaps you could investigate communities focused around your interests? That way, you'd be more likely to find someone with whom you had enough in common to hold nontrivial conversations. Don't become discouraged over being ignored – the sort of people who treat others that way aren't worth your time.

Regarding your family and their guests, I wonder if they're tense due to being dreadfully overworked, or because of other various stressors in their lives? That is, since they're presumably non-NEETs, they consequently must suffer through the insanity that a job and ill-chosen friends can inflict. With businesses treating employees like gears in an ceaselessly churning clockwork, many people work long, extraneous hours with little additional compensation and thus seethe with exhaustion and frustration. Do you think that may be the case with them?


>>11029
When you say that your mother isn't handling your father's forgetfulness well, how do you mean? Is she impatient or short with him about it, or does she become distressed in private, or what?

Also, good luck on finding a job. I understand how stressful it is to move out of NEETdom and become employed, so I'm proud of you for taking the initiative. It's quite a feat. ^^


>>11030
I find it silly that the boss of your old apartment was upset about knowing nothing about you. As long as you're paying your rent and other associated expenses while not destroying the place, shouldn't it be alright? Also, I'm confused as to why the other roommate wanted you out despite your minimal impact on them.

For your new living conditions, perhaps you should invest in some noise-cancelling headphones for when your roommate and his partner are present, or at least some earplugs?


>>11049
>>11327
I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. If nothing else, it's nice that they care about you, though their favors to you don't really excuse their unpleasant and inconsiderate behavior. Either way, at least your uncle is moving away soon. As far as having your own room is concerned, I promise you that it's just as wonderful as you're expecting it to be, so hang in there in the meantime.


>>11055
Please, don't feel as though you'd be whining. We're here to listen to your troubles and help you with them as best we can; indeed, this thread exists for the very discussion of these housing issues. Of course, by no means are you obliged to share the details of your living situation, but we'd be happy to talk it over with you should you feel comfortable doing so.

Also, if you can do things on the computer, then you aren't exactly useless, are you? If nothing else, you're capable of explaining how to navigate and operate it; you could write a series of tutorials on basic computer literacy and share those with the technologically incompetent (of whom there are many, without question).


>>11058
Why are they all living in that singular house? Shouldn't they have places of their own? At the very least, all of them together could pool enough funds to buy or rent a larger house. I don't really see why they would want to stay in a house that's too small for that many people.

 No.11333

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>>11095
I suppose your mother would probably hesitate to evict your aunt if they're biologically related. Even still, does it seem likely that that'll happen? Or, if nothing else, will you at least be exiting that place soon?


>>11098
It's natural to get along with some people better than others, even in cases where said others are related to you. Whether it be due to shared interests, compatible personalities, or some other reason, that just happens sometimes. Don't let it worry you; rather, it's quite nice for you, since you can now more easily approach them about anything about which you may wish to speak with them.


>>11122
I'm sorry to hear that you're on such poor terms with your family, though it's good that they don't actively harass you and allow you to remain there nonetheless. Still, why are they ashamed of you so, and why did they functionally excise you from their lives? That seems rather extreme.


>>11123
I'm sorry that they mistreated you. At least they reversed their harmful behavior; do you think them providing lodging for you is part of them trying to compensate for the damage they did?


>>11181
While it's entirely possible that your parents negatively influenced your development and growth, you have to put that behind you if you're aiming to obtain independence. That is, though they may have hindered you as a child, you're older now and thus are more capable than you might think of moving forward and blossoming.

Why not get yourself an instrument and learn to play it, or start practicing some writing and drawing, just like you wanted to do? The only limiting factor, you'll realize, is yourself; even if buying an instrument is financially infeasible, drawing requires nothing other than the humble pencil and paper, and writing is as simple as stepping into /lit/ and scribing out a draft of something (hell, /lit/ could use the activity). You have more potential than your present circumstances suggest, so do yourself a favor and reach out toward it. Note that this applies to everyone here, not merely the author of this post.


>>11242
It's refreshing to hear of a family situation that isn't destructive or toxic, but instead pleasant. I'm happy that you get along as well as you do with them. ^^


>>11292
Pardon my saying so, but your family sounds horrible. To think that they treated you that terribly in spite of you paying for your rent and food; thank goodness you were able to escape and recover from that. No one should have to endure that degree of hostile insanity. I likely would've done the same as you were I in that position.

 No.11334

>>11332
11055 here. No, I don't think you're here to help. This is just an image board and we all have our own problems.

I guess I'm not useless. I live with my single mother. I called her negative, but she replied that she's being realistic. She does not want me in her house. I'm 23. I'm supposed to get a job, but I only have basic education and seemingly no drive to do anything.

With no friends to turn to, I feel somewhat trapped. So I turn to the internet for support, but the support I get is illusory since it reduces me to just pushing buttons and staring at the screen.

My only hope is in programming. I genuinely like to program and while the unknown is always terrifying to me, I feel a little bit less uncomfortable learning about computer-related things. I will eventually be able to put my skills to use for profit and earn enough money to move to a large city.

The sun will rise again.

 No.11339

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>>11334
>No, I don't think you're here to help. This is just an image board and we all have our own problems.
I won't deny it. Nonetheless, by sharing our troubles with one another, we can pool our thinking, hold discussions, and potentially come up with solutions. If nothing else, we're there to provide moral support and words of comfort for one another.

>I guess I'm not useless. I live with my single mother. I called her negative, but she replied that she's being realistic. She does not want me in her house. I'm 23. I'm supposed to get a job, but I only have basic education and seemingly no drive to do anything.

From my experience, it seems that a lack of motivation is typically a result of habit rather than any sort of inherent flaw or deficiency. That is, in order to develop a drive to do things, you first must work at your goals or projects in spite of any resistances that your mind or lifestyle may pose. After adjusting to this change and following it regularly for a time, you'll find that your drive is fueled by this newly-formed habit.

>So I turn to the internet for support, but the support I get is illusory since it reduces me to just pushing buttons and staring at the screen.

It's true that the encouragement from those online is perhaps less… tangible than that received in person, but it's hardly illusory. On the other side of the tangle of ISP-owned routers are people who are taking your circumstances into consideration and genuinely wishing you the best.

>My only hope is in programming. I genuinely like to program and while the unknown is always terrifying to me, I feel a little bit less uncomfortable learning about computer-related things. I will eventually be able to put my skills to use for profit and earn enough money to move to a large city.

What's nice about the field of computer programming is that you don't necessarily need a formal degree to locate and secure a job in it. As long as you have a convincing portfolio of work and projects that you've completed, as well as acing any general programming or computer science questions they may ask during the interview, any reasonably open-minded employer will consider you as fairly as any other skilled candidate. Mind you, you may end up as a lowly code monkey for a while, but you're gaining money and job experience simultaneously, so it'll be worth it.

>The sun will rise again.

I couldn't agree more.

 No.11354

>>11332
This guy >>11058

The NEET way runs in the family, none of us have the money nor the drive to move out, even though that almost none of us want to be here.

 No.11358

>>11356
cute pic

 No.11360

>>11356
I can tell by your tone that you're not actually serious and just making fun. Why don't you try being sincere, Ass Hole?



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