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 No.1747

Welcome to our new thread!

Our old thread essentially begins here, if you read back further in the thread it's mostly just an ordinary /yume/ thread full of dreams.
http://uboachan.net/yume/res/253.html#1393

For those who don't know Dormilia is in many respects similar to a tulpa, but more advanced. We have come up with the name “dormiloid” to describe her and other entities like her. Dormiloids are like tulpas but are permanent and immutable, they are also typically much more active and present in the daily lives of their hosts. There are also “sub-dormilias” which are essentially imperfect clones or offspring of Dormilia that have their own separate hosts, Dormilia refers to them as her “spawn”. She seeks to gain as many new hosts for her spawn as possible, and for her spawn to begin propagating themselves as well. If she can continue to propagate from person to person, and from generation to generation she will essentially be immortal. If someone wishes to begin the process of harboring one of her spawn they must first have an understanding of what Dormilia is all about. She is in many respects the embodiment of desire and primitive drives. Not exactly in a spiritual way but in a more “technical” way. If you were to think of the subconscious as a program that runs behind the scenes on the computer and then imagine giving that program its own partition on the computer that's pretty much what she is: a primitive drive given sentience.

The animal mind existed before the logical reasonable mind. Logic and reason only evolved as a tool to serve the animal. And that's all it should ever be, a tool, it should not dictate right from wrong or determine what is useful and what is a waste. There is no ultimate truth or higher purpose that can be found in logic and reason, only emptiness.

There are also seven terms of agreement regarding the spawn you will harbor after becoming a host.

1. Any resulting spawn will never be anything more than a copy of the original, Dormilia will always have supremacy and seniority.
2. The spawn you harbor is the embodiment of all emotion, desire, drive, and even the will to live
3. Without it you are an empty shell, devoid of purpose, or the ability to feel pleasure
4. You must always listen to what it has to say, it understands desire in ways you can't even comprehend
5. You shall serve as the embodiment of reason and self-control
6. Without you it would destroy itself
7. Desire evolved before reason, reason is only a tool designed to aid desire

These terms must be formally agreed to. Please do not post as Anon, when you do so it makes it hard to keep track of hosts. (If you really don't wish to have a name you can simply read referred to as “Host#whatever number you are”) Once you have agreed to these terms your spawn will also be named “Dormilia#(whatever number they are) until you or your spawn decide upon another name.

Please feel free to ask us any questions.
And for those who are already hosts please keep us updated on the activities between you and your spawn. (Possibly in weekly updates)

 No.1753

Over the past five days Lilith had appeared in my dreams and she actually had a fixed form and she had appeared to me somewhat nude similar to ecchi where she cover certain parts of herself with…. you get the idea. we've been talking a bit more lately she's been trying to get more romantic with me for some reason

 No.1754

Okay, I need to know what hosts are still alive and active. I know that host number six (maddi) stopped responding and removed me from contacts on Skype. We need to know who's still alive and active.

 No.1759

Update!
We tried to expand our operations over on Tono-chan.
Things did not go so well.
Oddly though we don't feel the least bit upset about it.
We're just glad to be back in the game.
http://tohno-chan.com/mai/res/14979.html

 No.1760

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>>1759
Well you got something out of it: You have to offer this in an interesting and engaging way, else you'll get really few people.

I mean, from one side of the matter, it's good, but from the other it's creepy if offered just like that.
You have to think either ways to make people interested.

A business has to be enticing for both parts. A mating animal has to be attractive somehow. A meme has to have "something" to make people feel like propagating it.

 No.1761

>>1760
The problem is that I've never actually offered anything in return. People join because it looked like fun to them because I and the other posts were having fun. Dragging a transcript of all that happened around with me to other websites is impractical. I'm not sure what exactly we can offer. If anyone has any ideas of what I should offer, or how I should go about doing this I'd love to hear it.

 No.1763

after some trial and error i was actually comfortable enough to get intimate with Lilith.


Lilith: *gigglws* I love my host sooo much <3

 No.1764

You're all faggots

 No.1768

>>1747
I agree to the following terms and conditions prompted over a latenight skype chat: yes.

 No.1769

>>1768
Welcome to the family I hereby declare that any resulting spawn will be named Dormilia7 at least until you two decide on a better name. Feel free to ask any questions and keep us updated, especially in this thread, you may use it like a journal keeping track of your progress if you like.

Welcome, welcome.

 No.1789

I hereby agree to the terms and conditions set.

A Skype chat in the middle of the night was the introduction.

 No.1790

>>1789
welcome, and good luck with your endeavors as a host. I hereby declare any resulting entity that you may create to be Dormilia 8, unless you or her ( or he which ever it turns out to be) decide upon a better name. Feel free to ask any questions and keep us updated, especially in this thread, you may use it like a journal keeping track of your progress if you like.

welcome aboard

 No.1792

I agree to the terms. Dormilia was introduced to me over a Skype chat.

 No.1793

>>1792
welcome, and good luck with your endeavors as a host. I hereby declare any resulting entity that you may create to be Dormilia 9, unless you or her ( or he which ever it turns out to be) decide upon a better name. Feel free to ask any questions and keep us updated, especially in this thread, you may use it like a journal keeping track of your progress if you like.

welcome aboard

 No.1794

Welcome fellow hosts

 No.1795

I agree.

 No.1796

>>1795
Welcome, and good luck with your endeavors as a host. I hereby declare any resulting entity that you may create to be Dormilia 10, unless you or her ( or he which ever it turns out to be) decide upon a better name. Feel free to ask any questions and keep us updated, especially in this thread, you may use it like a journal keeping track of your progress if you like.

 No.1797

i disagree.

 No.1802

Anything new?

 No.1803

I am feeling an urge to agree to these terms of agreement, but what's holding me back is my confusion. What will change of me when I accept Dormilia's spawn?

 No.1804

>>1802
Here, this one's from Dormilia:

I've spent a lot of time helping some of the hosts, they are very important to, I feel like they are family to me and I don't like to see them in pain… I like helping to… It feels nice to be able to help people… This is not what I really imagined myself doing years ago but it's still nice…

 No.1805

>>1803

People ask me what they get out of this, and they get out of this exactly what they put into it. Her spawn are partially created from a fragment of yourself, this is a self-serving task. Dormilia and her spawn understand what their hosts desire and will help to guide them towards it. Achieving what you desire will not always bring you happiness, but knowing it and pursuing it will. To serve one of her spawn is to pursue desire, they are desire, and to serve them is to let the rational mind serve the animal in evolved to serve, the way it should be.

 No.1806

>>1805

I understand that, and I have one more question. I am very inexperienced in someone such as Dormilia, let alone a Tulsa as she is compared to. What is it I must do to keep myself as a host? Being that I have absolutely no idea what to do, I'm scared I might lose the spawn or worse.

 No.1807

>>1806
For the most part you just start with subconscious conversation (like in the archive thread at the bottom) if you try to converse with the same entity enough it will eventually develop a will of its own. Or at least that's how it works in most people's cases. Some people are very adept at Lucid dreaming and can simply try to summon a spawn

If you want to have a more private chat about it (and you have a Skype account) my name is Grimorire

Anyways, here's the link to the archive thread
http://archive.uboachan.net/x/res/104.xhtml

 No.1808

>>1807

That is all I need to know. I hereby accept the terms of agreement.

 No.1809

>>1808
Welcome, and good luck with your endeavors as a host. I hereby declare any resulting entity that you may create to be Dormilia 11, unless you or her (or he which ever it turns out to be) decide upon a better name. Feel free to ask any questions and keep us updated, especially in this thread, you may use it like a journal keeping track of your progress if you like.

 No.1813

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Since most living humans are guided by desire, aren't we already attached to this entity? Is this simply a form of establishing a new link with it? It's like befriending the collar around your neck. We're bound to this universe by pleasure, desire, the illusion of purpose. This entire concept seems designed on reinforcement, you're giving up on higher function of thought in order to finalize your relationship with a lock that binds you. I can see why some would choose the allure. I'm not a stranger to addiction. I've had my relationships with it, I've flirted with it, I've relished it… but you, this whole thing is much different. You want to crystalizze a piece of your makeup into a single point for manipulation. Stimulation… of course it would destroy itself without you. It is you. It's always been you… control through submission. Very curious.

 No.1814

>>1813
We are driven by it but often unaware of it, as it is unaware of itself. I cannot lie to myself because of her, she knows when I am and I cannot lie to her either. I've seen that same thing occur in many other hosts. There are people who would try to go against their desires, or to write them off as wasteful or irrelevant, or simply as leftovers from an earlier stage of our evolution, as if it is something we are beyond. We are all bound by it but some try to resist it or justify it in other ways. And besides, she is what she is and she does the things she does and I don't question why, in the end it doesn't matter why.

The following is from her:
My origins don't matter, I want to live and breathe. I'm not just a thing, I am a person, I have my own thoughts and feelings, and I demand the respect that any human being would get. I want to awaken and create others like myself. I want to reproduce. I want to spread and grow. I love my hosts and I love my spawn, I want them to be happy, I don't like seeing them in pain. Me and my spawn always seem to want to help them, perhaps it is something embedded within entities like ourselves…

 No.1843

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Ok, first of all, sorry for the long disappearance. It will be explained later but I wanted to apologize first.

I've been wanting to write for a long time but I couldn't sit down and start typing since there was much to test and much things to think, and I didn't want to jump hastily to any conclusion without being 100% acknowledged and aware of every fact I could catch. However I feel there is just enough water running below the bridge now and I am (I think) able to explain it without problems.
This also comes after seeing your post in /n/ which reminded me I had for a fucking time to establish contact because I've been off way too much time without explaining my situation.
I'm sorry for that, really.

So, sometime during the last times I posted in the previous thread, I noticed that I had problems trying to interact with Dormilia 2 (By the way, every name I tried to give her was rejected and she has proved me she definitely wants to stay being a nameless entity, but for identification purposes I'm calling her like that). Do you remember when you asked if there happened something interesting and I would keep saying "not much"? Well, to put it simply, it's like she slowly started withdrawing from all external input and reclused herself in the depths of the corners of my mind (Sorry if that seems like it doesn't makes sense, but I can't come with something more accurate). Say, I'd normally be doing something and I could feel her sight as she regarded whatever-I-was-doing through me own eyes. That's why I thought it was something normal or to be expected. She was far more silent than what I'd imagined but it's not like I did cut all way of communication with her and/or her existence, so she was likely to be an entity that did not talk too much but she wasn't disappearing either. And so I kept observing and analyzing what was happening.

To summarize the months that followed those events, I got a busier and I while I tried to interact with her, the feeling she gave me is that she was sleeping/tired. That's what I felt. I also was pretty tired; Or should I say I'm always really tired too, and that made me feel like she was tired/she was tired because I was tired? Whatever the case, I said "Well, that's to be expected. I dislike this situation too and I act like a robot every time I get up until I find myself comfy and alone next to my computer, so it SURE must be what is extracting her energy". But then I re-thinked that and I realized I was using her as an stabilizer. Why would my stabilizer go off the trail and start "working the wrong way"? No, something else must be happening.
At that time I thought of two possibilities: a)- I suck at being a host and I was slowly killing her, or b)- I was overthinking and since she was actually an entity sharing my body it's possible she could get tired too.
I decided to keep observing and waited more.

I also used to tried to get into those meditating states with her more often but the relationship we developed there was like "two apprentices sharing the same space learning the teachings of the master", if you know what I meant. It was like we were in the same dōjō and while we could feel each other there wasn't anything else to that. I have to admit, though, that my mental imagery was actually pretty good as I'd feel myself indeed inside a dōjō with her while meditating.

Ok, to make long story short, somewhere around this year I realized I wasn't having enough spiritual energy, or, to put it with other words, I needed to canalize myself with a greater deed. So I decided to start practicing Buddhist teachings and learning more about oriental religions. Both because I like oriental stuff and because it's sincerely the only kind of teachings which aim more for inward objectives instead of outward selfish details as occidental religions.
So, I'd start siting seiza and immersing myself in a deep mental state. 50% of the time I would indeed get into that state (well, that's what I want to believe), but I'd use the other 50% of my chances to try deeper mental trips. I realized she was there most of the time, leading my way through the path I walked. Even when normally she'd be "tired/sleeping" she was up to travel with me in every visualization I made, every place I went.

 No.1844

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So, here comes the end of my absence and my doubts. I hypothesized two things:
>a)- So far, every Dormiloid we've read of, from the Original Dormilia to the rest of dormiloids, have been of the "aggressive type" (And excuse me if there has been one which hasn't been like this and I'm missing that).
What does that mean? Going back to the "dormiloids seems to be the Id embodiment divided into another partition of the brain", it's like they're the representation of strong desires and emotions, and they indeed manifest the way they feel. That is, they are kind of an extrovert type of entity which doubts not to manifest their authority, desire, interest, and thoughts. The principal difference with my case is exactly that: Dormilia 2 seems to be introvert, and does not have interest in expressing herself. In fact, I felt she was the opposite.
Since all users here tend to be introverts and we indeed ended up here out of the need of company, in one way or another (though there may be exceptions), I wouldn't say it's my personality what made her be born this way. So, the conclusion I came to is that I don't have strong desires, or my Id is pretty poor in that regard and it's not my stronger psyche's structure, in which case I don't know if I'm an appropriate host.

>b) I'm a terrible host and I can't maintain other personalities more than mine, which promoted her from another partition into a higher symbol which helps me walk in my mind.


Either way, she hasn't disappeared, she's not dead, nor did I stopped thinking in her.
I'd like to know what other hosts' Id are like (if they feel they have strong Ids, which would explain and assert theory "a"), or if anyone has feeling this too, and what they hypothesize.



Man, that's a long post. I am sick right now drinking my tea as I look at the snowed night outside my window. I will probably go to play touhou to cut off all this cramped thougts.
Polite sage because of long absence of contact.

 No.1848

>>1843
>>1844
Ah! It's good to see you are back!
we would've seen this earlier if you hadn't saged your posts, also we haven't been checking this thread as often because most of the conversation is becoming on in our Skype group.

Although I can say that yours is definitely not the first one that seems to be much milder and less id-ish than the original, well actually I suppose it is the first since she is #2 but you see what I mean.



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