I don't really buy it being the real thing.
For starters, didn't the change log claim that the FC menu was only added on the latest version? I mean, it could have been a faulty translation but it's still suspicious.
Leaving that aside, if it is indeed a fake, whoever made this certainly did put a lot of research and effort on it.
fake, fanmade game with YN sprites
According to the changelog:>2004/11/23 0.05（以下更新点です）>●一部「テンキー１」で反応がなかったエフェクトに、動きをつけました。>●エフェクトを４つ追加しました。>●新規マップを追加しました。>●一部マップを少し脚色、調整しました。>●ゲーム全体的に音量を下げました。>●自作メニュの表示がスムーズにできるようになりました。（表示項目も増えました）
"Edited the custom menu so it displays more smoothly (also increased the number of items displayed)".>●自販機の反応を変更しました。>●メッセージ表示時に枠を表示するようにしました。>●バグ、グラフィック欠け等の修正をしました。>●現実の部屋にミニゲームを１つ追加しました。
I can't assure if that "custom menu" is in fact the FC one, however. (Remember that you can change the normal menu after speaking with some NPCs, so it could be referring to that).
Also, the person who released this is steelpipe, what the fuck. Is this the vendetta youtube thing he was speaking of? Obligatory fraud alert.
Who can be retarded enough to think this is legit?
Luckily not many.
>>6688>because it even has unused sprites.
And?>the files are with modification date of 2005
Are you aware that anyone can change that right? There is nothing in there that couldn't have been ripped, imitated or arraged in some way by a third party, remember not long ago one of these fakers appeared selling an older version.
>>6686>(Remember that you can change the normal menu after speaking with some NPCs, so it could be referring to that).
If it is worth anything, that's also available on this "version".
At least is not as fake as surfers paradise manga
Why would anyone make a fake of this though? I mean, we all remember that fake old version that was being sold on the internets, that was for money yes. But this? Maybe someone desperate for followers or something.
Is there actually enough of a difference in this to warrant playing this, fake or not?
So, maybe I am jumping into theories waaaay too soon, but just in case, how different is this version compared to that commercial 0.04 psiwolf posted?
It's a scam, just like the last time. Suddenly and magically something people would spend money on appears on the internet and then people actually spend money on them. It's really just the same old trick.>>6694
I wouldn't be surprised if they're the same crap with two npc's added, if any.
It's a lot smaller than the real YN.
It has a fair amount of tiny differences, but it's mostly less NPCs and areas. Also, I hope you enjoy a shittier version of the hell maze and the lack of floor patterns on the Dark World.
because we wanted to download this
Okay, history time again…
Long story short, there was a spanish forum, some people didn't like the attitude of *chans and also didn't speak english and so they made a forum for them. Some of them didn't even like us (the developer Jojogape, for example, who was a mod there). So in due time they kinda talked shit of us, some people found it and posted it in /ot/ like 4 years ago. So this guy, steelpipe, said a bunch of stupid things (youtube is my weapon, reason is my boat, we will have revenge and so forth) and he turned in the laughing stock of the thread. After that their forum got raided and they blamed us both because we were making fun of the guy and because we were basically "the bullies" of the fandom. Some people went and talked with them and thing got cleared out, though. I mean, even jojo came one day and basically said "you know guys, I think we just misjudged you and got too biased, you're not half bad". Or something like that, can't find the thread.
But basically I thought we were alright with them?
So yeah, now we jump 4 years in time to 2017, this ElEloyxillo guy is steelpipe, and I made a comment about youtube vendetta for comedy only and suddenly we're the bad guys again and they start talking shit about ubuu again and that we're envious they made this discovery before us? That's not even the point of this thread…
Like, we raise a fraud flag from anything, it's tradition, and I doubt more than 3 people in this place even remember him. I don't understand why they feel so offended. I'd go talk with them before things get retarded again but it seems they eliminated the links to join their servers…
Hello, I'm a member of the team that found this version. Before this goes any further and we get on another shitty conflict, which I'm sure none of us really wants, I will try to explain what happened.
Back in 2015, an important part of the Spanish community was basically alive because of Steelpipe's channel. This channel is like what lasted of the dead forums, since we all interacted and talked about Yume Nikki there. One day, Steelpipe made a video reacting to the supposedly Yume Nikki ver. 0.04 stream and our interest towards old versions drastically increased. A few days after this video, he started a project named #LaInvestigaciónYN with the objective of researching and finding these versions.
The project didn't receive much attention at first, but after some findings it became a team with nine people in it, althought it ended up being reduced to five because the other ones weren't active at all. We went through a lot of stages and uploaded various videos informing about our progress. The proof of this is on YT.
This research kept going for about two years until this month, when I found an auction selling フリーゲームstation! vol.1, a magazine that contained ver. 0.06 in it. We already knew about this earlier thanks to Psiwolf posts and we were certain that it indeed contained this version because we had contacted before an owner of this magazine and she had sent us proof. So I inmediatly contacted everyone in this team to tell them about it. Some hours before this auction ended, a member of the team succesfully bought the magazine. We celebrated it and after waiting for about a week, the 21st of July the magazine was received. The version was shared between the five people in this team, three days later in we shared it with some people we trusted in the community, and a day later it got published.
We thought the reaction would be overall good since it would be the first time something different about YN happened in a long time, and some people indeed enjoyed the finding. But then we got sue threats and this thread happened. Of course that annoyed us a bit because we were working on this project for two years it felt awful that after all the stuff we went through just to get that version and bring some light to the fandom people begin to call it a fraud.
But what really made us react like this was the fact that you said it was a fraud because Steelpipe posted it (and the sue threats, but that's not relevant in the subject I'm trying to talk about now since it's not really related to ubuu). That shit happened years ago, we don't want a revenge nor a war, and you probably don't want it either. That's the main reason of this post, I think it is better to just explain everything before things get unnecessarily bad because of some comments or jokes.
Leaving drama aside, we have solid proof that can explain how we got this version, in case you're interested. If after that you guys still think it is fake, well, you are in your rights to think like that.
>>6706>We thought the reaction would be overall good since it would be the first time something different about YN happened in a long time
I disagree, this happened before with the "V0.04" thing.
>and some people indeed enjoyed the finding. But then we got sue threats and this thread happened. Of course that annoyed us a bit because we were working on this project for two years it felt awful that after all the stuff we went through just to get that version and bring some light to the fandom people begin to call it a fraud.
We called fraud the following things:
1)- Project Yume Nikki >>2922 (seriously just check at that thread)
2)- The supposed changes "made by kikiyama" to his site. >>6143
3)- V0.04 >>5964
(there was another thread but I don't feel like looking it around)
4)- V0.06 (this thread)
And we aren't even calling it on you, but on the people selling the magazine.
>But what really made us react like this was the fact that you said it was a fraud because Steelpipe posted it
I never mentioned it was a fraud because steelpipe posted it, I merely made a joke. It'd be pretty sad if he actually did this a revenge or something… I mean, he'd have spent 4 years working on it just to… to… see what I mean? Also, I made the comment THEN raised the fraud flag as we do every single time, I'd have done it regardless of who posted the thing.
I know I'm not supposed to think you guys would understand internal jokes if you aren't part of the community but making a fuss this big over a misunderstanding is bond to bring shit on both sides.
>Leaving drama aside, we have solid proof that can explain how we got this version, in case you're interested. If after that you guys still think it is fake, well, you are in your rights to think like that.
We don't think you made the fraud, we think you got SCAMMED (with the exception of >>6692
and that isn't me so I'm not going to defend that post). See why I say I don't understand why all the ranting about how envious we are?
Everything is chill on this side, attacking a site for the opinion of a few members (actually just one post, but whatever) is just nasty.
>>6706>findings>This research kept going for about two years until this month
You cannot be serious and claim this is some sort of sherlock, this kind of jap magazine sale with older versions is nothing new, you said it yourself, the 0.04 appeared first, no one trusted it enough to go and buy it.
>first time something different about YN happened in a long time
Again, this is nothing new, it has been there for years.
>it felt awful that after all the stuff we went through just to get that version and bring some light to the fandom people begin to call it a fraud.
Wouldn't you be skeptical? There were dozens of small events with fake stuff, from the interview to Surfers Paradise questionable licensing, you can't blame people for checking every corner of something that is trendy to fake.
>But what really made us react like this was the fact that you said it was a fraud because Steelpipe posted it
One user made a joke, ONE, it means one unit, andI don't even think he was serious, because of that your group has been calling us names behind our backs.
>the sue threats
That's kind of irrelevant unless you can prove it came from this site.
>we don't want a revenge nor a war, and you probably don't want it either.
Then tell your group to stop the hostilities, we know spanish, if you say people have the right to think this is fake, then let them.
>>6706>you said it was a fraud because Steelpipe posted it
That's wrong though. It would have been called a fraud no matter what, the only way it could have been different is if Kikiyama came back from the grave and posted it themselves.
Jojogape the creator of Someday? He's such a chill dude what could have happened there?
Someday is my favourite YNFG so I'm interested.
Honestly, I don't know exactly what his prejudice with uboachan was, or how it started exactly (you'd need to ask him directly to get a confirmation or the real thing). I think it has to do with the bashing of flux but I'm not sure; either way, he started to look at ubuu as some place with meanies. He wasn't the only one though, a good bunch of people started to cierclejerk on the idea, so I believe that only a few people hated ubuu and later started spreading that among their peers, and he sadly was among them (at least that's the feeling I get).
Anyway, he used to post here, but stopped around 2012 and only kept updating his thread for a while (which is here >>>/fg/6153
). Outside of ubuu, in his tumblr mostly, he used to make snarky comments about our vomitive shithole and things escalated even more during the spanish forum incident (file 1). His comments there were more or less "They are always like this, being a dick to everyone and shitting on all" or something along those lines. So yeah, he was pretty angry with us even though we weren't with him; so some people on this side got offended when they noticed the trashtalk and started making jokes about someday (calling it "period" and calling jojo "Joe Joe Gates", among other things) just because he overreacted every time, but that didn't last long. Finally he chilled down and realized we actually didn't want to see the world burning down (file 2) and even came here and apologized for the things he said here >>>/ot/13642, so yeah.
He's a pretty chill and cool guy, it's sad he got carried like that, but at least he realized his errors and apologized for them; that's more than you could say of most people.
That's past yeah, I interacted with Jojogape and he's a very mature person, Someday is also one of the best YNFGs in the west, it's better if we treat him well.
Didn't know there was a spanish YN community, did they release any good fangames?
One of them released a fangame named Glemsomhet. They were also working on a co-op fangame named Diario de Las 7 Lunas (The Seven Moons Diary), but from what I remember they lacked members and couldn't get too far and it was an on-and-off thing (mind you, this was back in 2013, they may be working again on it right now). Honestly, I'd welcome it, we have already too many shitty fangames in english and japanese so some fresh ideas from outside these stagnant circles would be pretty cool.
>>6718>a fangame named Glemsomhet
Wasn't that cancelled literally two days ago?
Googling that 7 lunas thing gives me nothing, I tried hard, only thing I found is a forum thread in beanspeak from 2014 that I believe is somewhat related, but it doesn't tell me much either, I only know the protagonist is named "Luna". In four years I'm sure they made some progress.
Can anyone provide sauce?
Oh, was it? Didn't know. There it goes, then.>>6726
Honestly, can't tell for sure. Back then most of the people "working" on it seemed to be "the idea guy" rather than somebody who could draw, compose or map (since there are only a few tilesets and sprites around). As for how they're doing now, well, they don't seem to be posting the progress anywhere so I can't say for sure.