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I think finally understand Yume Nikki now. I'm not saying I'm the absolute-est right, I just wanted to share this with you. Just a ramble. Sorry for my English.

It's been perhaps over 10 years since it came out now. I discovered it… 4-5 years ago, I think. It scared the hell out of me, it made me cry, but it also made me interest; I was obssessed with it (like most of my interests), kept researching it, theorizing it, everything.
For a while, I let go. It's always been in my heart - when someone refers "Yume Nikki" it's like, ah, that nostalgic feeling.

But it's only in the past few years, and most intensely now, that I understand Yume Nikki. Perhaps I'm feeling just like a special snowflake. Perhaps I'm finally going insane. I don't know. It doesn't matter right now, this isn't about me.

But hear meowt, and forgive me if I am posting this in the wrong place, or forgive me for posting at all.

Will post in parts.


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Why does Madotsuki refuse to leave the room? Hey, I don't know either! Kikiyama never told us anything!

But to sum it up, I would think because the world out there, to her, it is… scary. It's hopeless. It's inferno. Maybe for others, not - and that's another suffering point, nobody else understanding - but to her, is.

It's full of hardships, and sometimes, a bunch of people telling you "but there are so many beautiful things too", and especially "it's just how it is", "suck it up", and trying to "cure" you by adhering to their robot-like routine and costumes and lying to yourself and… ah. It's really not enough for her to want to stay in this world - if anything, it makes her want to stay away even more.

Just, discard everything you've learnt, all your "morals" and "values", everything, and try to put yourself in her shoes as much as possible. I'm going to refer as "you" now.

Sleeping - just sleeping, not dreaming - numbs everything. You don't think. You don't feel. That's the start of things. Hungry? Sleep numbs it. Tired? Sleep numbs it. Hurt? Sleep numbs it.


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And then it gets so much better.


You get to be reborn in another world. You get to explore a whole another world… hell, worlds.
Sometimes, you can control them.

It's an undescribable feeling.

Indeed sometimes - or often - they're horrifying. But the sad truth/explanation (getting out of general you now)? "Horrifying" is subjective. Maybe to Madotsuki the things YOU consider horrifying in the game are not that horrifying to her or perhaps even interesting/beautiful to her. OR, the sad/truth explanation… She's so used to real life's "horrifying" by now, that this is practically nothing.

And besides, sometimes you (back to general you) can control that… Isn't that amazing?

Dreaming really is indescribable. I can see why Madotsuki would want to stay in that.


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Basically, if you had to choose between a shit world, no hope, no oppurtunities, gray, completely robotic, to a complex world(s), full of colour, full of different stories, of no "Impossible"s, of a balance of horror and yet beauty, of taking different roles, of… everything…
Honestly, wouldn't you choose the latter too? If you were in my theory's position of Madotsuki's position, wouldn't you choose to sleep too?

You fall in love with it. My room -> Get in bed -> Dream -> Wake up -> Repeat.

The dreams don't have an explanation. To try to find one, it is useless… just kidding, keep theorizing, that's good too, and I think your real life experiences do affect your dreams, after all. But look, when YOU dream, do you focus on why would you dream that, what's your life story, or on the dreams themselves - the people (or things) you've met, the experiences, the sceneries…?


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Now, why would Madotsuki kill herself (supposedly)? I have a few theories, that have probably already been said, but that I feel most strongly about.

1 - Madotsuki killed herself because of this thought process: sleeping is like a free trial of death. Death is the full version. And what's best than non-stop sleeping, then– I mean, non-stop dreaming?

2 - Madotsuki was being threatened to have it all taken away from her. Perhaps being taken into a mental hospital, etcetera. Hell no. Why would you let somebody take the only thing that makes you enough happy? Thus, she kills herself either to A), escape from that, or a mesh of that and my former theory: escape from that AND live in a dreaming world(s) forever.

3 - My most hurtful and sad theory to me (even though they all are). She finally somehow gets so sick of the dream worlds too that she decides to kill herself and see what happens - the dreams were her last hope. There's nothing left now.


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"You're crazy, OP". I am. (But then again, so is Madotsuki, if we're speaking normie-level.)

This game doesn't have a story because it isn't a story.

It's a feeling, a message.

A feeling/message that sometimes I wonder if is what drove Kikiyama to make this game.

That's what I think, anyway.

I'm going to sleep now.


Nice, you basically summed up my thoughts on the whole thing as well.



Your third theory is the one most backed up by the game. The effects more or less prove that she's experienced that specific dreamscape. After she has seen everything there is to see in her dreams, there's little reason to continue living.


i think mado journey ends and there nothing to do for her in world. her great mission was completed succecfully so nothing more she needs


i think its a journey. mado searches ansvers could make her "complete". so when she finally completed the journey ends.

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