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 No.17840

Crossposting from Lainchan (https://lainchan.org/r/res/3260.html#3260). I've been wanting to compile a large variety of "eye-opening" media, and then to organize it by increasing gradation.

For me, there was much media that helped me to see things as I do now, to question things, be wary of the government, and see the various flaws in society. Anything that encourages free thought or distrust in assumptions/governments is what I am aiming for.

My idea is to organize it in such a way that a "program" can be made of it to introduce to people to help them to "wake up". Intro-tier would have to be "accessible" enough as not to cause any conditioned aversion toward it, and to gradually increase the concepts as you move higher on the list.

As far as the media medium itself, music and movies are better introductions than interactive media or books/podcasts.

Here's a sample of my current, unorganized list:

Movies

>The Matrix (and sequels?)


>ARQ


>Contact


>District 9


>Fight Club


>Johnny Got His Gun


>Soylent Green


>The Truman Show


>Avatar(?) (Not air-bender)


>Repo Men


Music

As far as intro-tier music goes- easily accessible, discernible lyrics, and subtle, thought-provoking themes (or perhaps just music that strays from standard musical trends in any way, but perhaps this works better for a higher tier). Basically, to subversively convey ideas and plant "seeds of doubt", to make conditionally foreign ideas more accessible and familiar. Similar to what current media is doing by forceful immersion.

>Crystal Castles


>Amnesia Scanner


>Front Line Assembly


>Machinae Supremacy


>Mankind Is Obsolete


>Oceanlab


>Brendan Byrnes


>Liar (Romanian)


>Holly Herndon


>Blanck Mass


Books

Intro-tier would be mostly fiction, and higher tiers would include non-fiction.

>1984 - George Orwell


>Brave New World - Aldous Huxley


>Fight Club - Chuck Paluhniuk


>Anthem - Ayn Rand


>Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand


>Lord of the Flies - William Golding


>Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte


>The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood


>The Giver - Lois Lowry


>Gathering Blue - Lois Lowry


>Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card (Perhaps series?)


>Fehrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury


>Dune - Frank Herbert (Series?)


Anime

>Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood


>Welcome to the NHK


>Ghost in the Shell (1996)


>Animatrix (?)


>Neon Genesis Evangelion


This is pretty general so far, so help me to refine by giving suggestions and questioning what I put here

 No.17843

Don't put the Matrix sequels and don't out in Avatar. The first reason for this being 1, the message is less effective if you put shit and the second is 2, Avatar doesn't even have that much to do with what you're talking about. Avatar is just another shitty, spectacle film filled with clichés and a heavy-handed message. The blue aliens look as cute and friendly and pet like as possible(to make them more sympathetic) while still being sexually attractive(to give them appeal to those types of people) and the cliché evil military guy. Watch mr.plinkett's review of it. Also, while welcome to the NHK is very good, it also has little to do with your message. Just having themes involving conspiracy doesn't make it about how you shouldn't trust the government. NHK was more about personal growth and how some people like to spin some kind of complicated story to explain the bad things in their life because they don't want to believe that it's either their fault or just coincidence. If anything, adding this show would subtract from your message because it would tell people that instead of deluding themselves into thinking that somebody else is out to ruin their lives, they should take things into their own hands. Frankly, I don't really agree with your base message. The government being shitty is just a reflection of how shitty people are. The government is nothing more than a bunch of self-serving people who either try to make a living or try to gain as much power as possible. Mixed in, there actually are a few people with good intentions. There is no grand plot. Everything bad the government does is just the culmination of a lot of selfish people's decisions. If anything, businesses are much, much more conspiratorial. I don't know why you put NGE. You might want to add something by Isaac Asimov. Good Fellas actually wouldn't be too bad of a choice either because it shows how easily the system can be manipulated by criminals. It's based on a true story too which gives it more weight. By the way, the only people who will see your collection are people who already agree with you. You're just adding another voice to the echo chamber.

 No.17846

The first season of psycho-pass would be good for the anime section.

 No.17853

>>17843
>don't out in Avatar
I think you're definitely right on this. I just wanted to see what others thought. It has very vague military distrust, but I think it's too overpowered to be really effective, except maybe as intro-tier (but even then).

>welcome to the NHK is very good, it also has little to do with your message

It kinda points out flaws in thought and emotional traps and things. I think by learning to recognize these, you also learn to question your already-held beliefs. Although, this:

>would subtract from your message because it would tell people that instead of deluding themselves into thinking that somebody else is out to ruin their lives, they should take things into their own hands

I feel is quite true. Actually potentially detrimental to the intent.

>There is no grand plot

Even so, I feel the effect is just the same, and as well with wakening to it.

>I don't know why you put NGE

I feel it encourages empathy and seeing things through varying perspectives, which I feel is very important. I realize my OP is kinda vague, though I also intend to cause personal growth with the completed program, as I feel they help with the overarching intent.

>You might want to add something by Isaac Asimov

Anything you'd recommend?

>You're just adding another voice to the echo chamber

At this point, yes. Though it's only with the completed program that anything will be done. The idea is that once completed, we can introduce it to friends through whatever means and feed it to others. Although it is possible that it will only be effective if there is a pre-existing inclination to "wake up".

Much thanks for the post and all the thoughts, this is really what the project needs right now



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