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 No.5654

Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?

 No.5655


 No.5656

zabujard. He was banned from yt but he's on deviantart and newgrounds

 No.5658

>>5656
>zabujard. He was banned from yt but he's on deviantart and newgrounds

I dont like that guy too edgy for my taste.

 No.5660

All obnoxious norms aside from zabujard

 No.5662

>>5660
>All obnoxious norms aside from zabujard

Zabujard is a faggot.

 No.5663

Not everything needs to be a YouTube channel. It’s a very boring topic to make videos about and if you make money off of it you’re a dumb fake NEET!

 No.5664

>>5663
> if you make money off of it you’re a dumb fake NEET!

I can somewhat agree with that since Youtube is kind of a job and NEETs and Hikis dont have jobs.

 No.5666

>>5664
>NEETs and Hikis dont have jobs
NEETs don't have jobs but hikkis can

 No.5667

Hikkichan wasn't even NEET since she went to school. The entire image people have of her of being either hikikomori or NEET are both wrong.

 No.5669

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>>5666
>NEETs don't have jobs but hikkis can

You do realize if you're working you're still apart of society because weather you want to or not you have pay bills and taxes the whole point of hikikomori is to withdraw from society people who work from home are not hikikomori.





Definition speaking they are all shut-in NEETs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdTZBw5WkeU [Embed]

From Wikipedia

>The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare defines hikikomori as a condition in which the affected individuals refuse to leave their parents' house, do not work or go to school and isolate themselves away from society and family in a single room for a period exceeding six months

 No.5670

>>5667
>Hikkichan wasn't even NEET since she went to school. The entire image people have of her of being either hikikomori or NEET are both wrong.



Thats because Noriko was a persona you retard Noriko was a character created by Ashley Ashley yes was being truthful in her vlogs she had a rough life real mental health problems and was generally a reclusive type of person but the whole female Hikikomori/NEET thing is a persona Noriko Hatakeyama/Hikkichan is a female NEET/Hikikomori where Ashley Hanrahan is not and never was if that makes any sense.

 No.5672

>>5669
I have a question for you, are you considered a hiki if you leave to buy groceries?

 No.5673

>>5672
>I have a question for you, are you considered a hiki if you leave to buy groceries?


I would say yes because most hikikomori actually do still go outside they are just isolated socially they dont work go to school nor have a social life outside the house here is a quote from an article (Quote) “Hikikomori are able to visit places where they feel secure,” says Ikegami, who himself had a period of social withdrawal in his younger days.

“They don’t work or do anything, so they think people are going to criticize them and dismiss them as worthless. They think the people around them will start lecturing them, so they avoid places where people might be,” he says.

“They can go to libraries or convenience stores or train stations — places where they don’t know anyone or where no one is likely to start talking to them,” he says. “Some people might even feel they can go to a convenience store if the clerk is foreign, not Japanese.” (Unquote)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2019/06/01/lifestyle/prison-inside-japans-hikikomori-lack-relationships-not-physical-spaces/#.XVTTqehKjIU

 No.5674

>>5673
Good, you passed the test.

 No.5675

>>5669
>the whole point of hikikomori is to withdraw from society
It's a coping method. There is no single way one is hikikomori aside from the criteria.

"Withdrawing from society" is very subjective and can occur in numerous ways. Everyone would agree, not leaving one's house or room is withdrawing from society, at the very least on a local level. Using that line of reasoning that having a job (or income, by extension) means one is not hikikomori, then if a hikikomori uses the internet or anything provided by the society such as electricity or water then they're participating in the society and thus not hikikomori.

If one were to active contribute to a society while merely being reclusive, then using the term hikikomori may be less clear in that instance. However, not all hikikomori have parents to support them so some means of income may be their only means of survival, even if it's patreon or surveys. There are many examples of ways someone could make money but still not contribute in such a way that would contradict the term hikikomori, for example, cryptocurrency or web design. Those largely do not contribute to the collective in ways most jobs do.

 No.5676

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A real hikikomori doesn't communicate even online, those who claim to be hikikomori, but still have active online lives are posers, these noob losers still have much to strive for to earn the true pro loser title that is "hikikomori".

 No.5677

>>5676

You're a fucking idiot.

 No.5678

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>>5677
I disagree.

 No.5679

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>>5675
>It's a coping method

No it is a psychological condition where a person coops themselves up at home in a single space due to various personal and social issues in their life.

>then if a hikikomori uses the internet or anything provided by the society such as electricity or water then they're participating in the society and thus not hikikomori.


That is a stupid cop out argument that makes no sense the difference is those are basic everyday necessities to survive in the modern world in at least someway where is working a job and attending school is way more interacting with society than any hikikomori ever would.

>not all hikikomori have parents to support them so some means of income may be their only means of survival, even if it's patreon or surveys. There are many examples of ways someone could make money but still not contribute in such a way that would contradict the term hikikomori, for example, cryptocurrency or web design. Those largely do not contribute to the collective in ways most jobs do.



I honestly don't care what kind of industry you're in because there is usually is something you're selling to someone weather that be a service a product or a skill you can do and to do that you need to have interaction with the outside world and employees to make that happen almost every job you work you have customers so you essentially are still contributing to society and still giving back to society and pretty much almost all at home jobs still require you to sometimes leave the house and go to the actual job and they also require you to go to an in person interview and talk to a stranger on the phone which a real hikikomori could not do and true not all hikikomori are supported by their parents but welfare is a thing you know that right? so yeah my point is definition speaking they are all NEETs because hikikomori means not contributing to society did you even watch the video i linked? also lets not derail this thread okay.

 No.5680

>>5678
>I disagree.

Well you're posting here so yeah you're a idiot.

 No.5681

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>>5680
I never claimed to be hikki, silly.

>a idiot

Its "an idiot", dear. Ironic, isn't it?

 No.5682

>>5679
>No it is a psychological condition where a person coops themselves up at home in a single space due to various personal and social issues in their life

What do you think a coping method is then? Facing some trauma or intensely unwanted situation which brings strong emotions and finding some respite from it in some form whether it be alcohol, isolating oneself, or something else.

 No.5683

It'd be wise not to respond to obvious bait.

 No.5696

>>5683
>It'd be wise not to respond to obvious bait.

Not bait.

 No.5757


 No.5775

>>5757

What a pathetic edgy attention whoring money hungry jew.

 No.5802

>>5675

For a long time I used the tag "high-functioning" recluse, because it avoids the whole competition thing of who's a true hikikomori, who's more fucked-up, etc.

Even though I can go outside (having built up my tolerance over a number of years)– it still feels like an away team mission on an alien planet, we're I've got a limited battery pack.

My guess is what I have is some kind of stimuli overload condition– I'll start getting irritable for example if I see a line of ants making their way into a bait trap. I don't even really mind the ants, but it's because they're chaotic doo-dads.

The tech changes drive me nuts too; the microtransactions with online shopping, the people who drag out text conversations over a number of hours. I need the walls to block out the trickles…

 No.5819

>>5757

Star is a Digibro rip-off. His format, editing, the rants, the way he structures his playlists, etc. all reek of Digi idol worship. The problem is that he's just way less interesting than Digi because he's a 17 y/o that has little life experience, and most of that "experience" comes second hand from Digibro, other youtubers, books, media, or other things he consumes. I think he mixes up these second hand experiences for his own, and stretches the truth a bit in his story telling.

Him and other similar hiki/neet youtubers are boring because they gripe about the same shit. Normies and what not. They also sperg out at the slightest bit of criticism. If you don't reply with "comfy" comments (comfiness above all for these thin skinned faggots), then you're just shut out. But honestly that's a problem with most youtube "personalities"… anyone who isn't pleasing them is a "hater" to be ignored/blocked/punished. Youtube and Youtubers are all cancer.

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>>5819
Fucking this best post ever finally somebody said it exactly he is also very narcissistic and pretty much a borderline sociopath as well and that retarded Korean kid named Red continues to suck his and hiding in my rooms dicks both Star and Red ban you outright if you criticize them despite the fact that they want to be famous public figures which shows how SJW they both really are also i gave Red advice on how to change his life and he just spat in my face even though i did care about him and tried to help him he just refuses to change his life and grow up and Star and his other friends just enable his toxic behavior at least i am trying to change my life for the better so i can be happy unlike these fucking losers who carry the misogynistic black pill incel defeatist mindset and at least i am not the one who is friends with a child molesting rapist unlike these kids and Red isn't even a real Neet he has and has always had a job you cant be Neet and have a job it doesn't work like that and hes always had this job ever since i met him 1 year ago if you wanna get technical about this shit they literally are no different than Noriko/Hikichan because just like her they are also attention seeking whores.

 No.5827

>>5819
>Child molesting rapist
Do you mean Digibro or some other guy?

 No.5828

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned chad marco yet since some of the content he posts seems pretty good.

 No.5829

>>5819


>Star is a Digibro rip-off. His format, editing, the rants, the way he structures his playlists, etc. all reek of Digi idol worship.


I have not liked the bulk of Digibro's videos for over a year now. I have been absurdly vocal in my criticism of him.

My editing is definitely similar. But that's mostly because I'm lazy and don't enjoy editing very much so I do the most rudimentary things editing wise which happen to also occur in a lot of his videos.

As for the playlists, the reason I use them is because they're good playlists. I like the idea. They work well. And I don't make it a secret that I got the idea from him because that seems a little insecure. Why not wear the influence on your sleeve? Leave credit where it is due? You can be your own individual while also doing this.

To say that my videos are the format as Digi however I think is a bit unfair. Digi makes an explicit effort to make his vlogs HD, to have a coherent topic, to be marketable, analytical, and so on. I'm over here just pointing my camera and stuff and saying words. I talk about life lore because that's what I value the most in YouTube content which Digi has deliberately not done for quite some time now. I enjoy people's mundane lives, the most raw expressions of them. Of course people would find that boring, my interests are autistic as fuck. But I don't make videos with the intention of them being for other people. I do them because there's a style I like and because I like seeing that style. If there are other people in the world who enjoy something that niche as much as me, great! If they don't, well, it wasn't for you in the first place.

>The problem is that he's just way less interesting than Digi because he's a 17 y/o that has little life experience, and most of that "experience" comes second hand from Digibro, other youtubers, books, media, or other things he consumes.


You're absolutely right. I have far more life experience than most people my age mostly because of being forced to move to so many different states and having to take care of my parent's mental health problems/financial issues and a number of other things but that doesn't change the basic fact that I am too young to tell the kinds of stories someone in their 30s would be able to tell with the body of experience that it would require to put them into context.

However, I do think I have some videos (like being an archive for instace) that have ideas in them that have not been expressed anywhere else on youtube but those are free and far between from my normal re-contextualizations of information that already exists.

>I think he mixes up these second hand experiences for his own, and stretches the truth a bit in his story telling.


Could you give an example?

>Him and other similar hiki/neet youtubers are boring because they gripe about the same shit. Normies and what not.


Completely understandable. These are the things I'm interested in and my channel is meant to be an unwashed archive of my thought processes incorrect and correct, strange and not so strange. It's a niche type of video, intentionally bad even. I'm just autistic.

I'm not going to be able to tell you what is correct and what isn't, I don't have the capacity to do that. I can only point to what patterns or consistencies I've noticed in my own feelings which are as you've probably guessed completely worthless unless you're trying to understand me or people who in some way similar.

>They also sperg out at the slightest bit of criticism. If you don't reply with "comfy" comments (comfiness above all for these thin skinned faggots), then you're just shut out.


I tend to keep up the majority of my comments except people who are spamming over and over again. I'm not sure where this idea comes from that I can't take criticism comes from. I've probably done something like what you describe in the past but I don't remember it. You'll find negative comments on my videos. It's just that I don't get them often so there usually aren't any. I also provide big replies like this one you're seeing right now. If that's sperging out then okay I can see it within that definition but I associate the term more with overt anger and suppression, not attempts at dialogue.

>But honestly that's a problem with most youtube "personalities"… anyone who isn't pleasing them is a "hater" to be ignored/blocked/punished.


I don't like this either. Which is why I don't do it. Comments directly effect a videos quality and part of that is having vibrant discussion that includes opposing view points. Everyone who disagrees with me is someone I can discuss these things with. And I often learn from interacting with them. Which isn't dissimilar to when I scroll down to the comments of a YouTuber I enjoy and read debate that adds to my understanding of that video. These are very valuable things.

 No.5830

>>5825

>he is also very narcissistic and pretty much a borderline sociopath


I probably am a sociopath. I haven't been diagnosed with ASPD but I could easily see it. I'm also pretty narcissistic in the sense that I do like my own videos (I don't like I'm hot shit but I do moderately enjoy them) and I talk a lot about my own experiences which could easily be construed as narcissism. These are valid claims, I don't have the answers to say whether they're completely true or false. I lean in the direction of agreeing with you but I can't know for sure until I'm older with a larger body of information, experience, and have spoken to a professional about these issues.


>both Star and Red ban you outright if you criticize them


I respond to criticism regularly in comments. The reason I banned you Hiki was because you were constantly spamming. Red has talked in videos about how he bans people who criticize him deliberately, I disagree with him on that personally but I don't care.

>despite the fact that they want to be famous public figures which shows how SJW they both really are


Do you have a quote or a video where I say I want to be a famous public figure? I could give you a litany of videos where in the title alone I chastise this idea, railing against it entirely. Who else has not one but two videos telling their audience to unsubscribe? If I wanted subs, I would be doing things very differently on my channel. My unikitty video from 2016 for instance has over 60k views now because of how I marketed it, on the shonen ronin channel I've made a number of viral hits some with over 10k views. If I wanted to game the system I could. I don't want to.

>and at least i am not the one who is friends with a child molesting rapist unlike these kids


I don't care. I could be friends with someone who's shot up a school and I would not care. In fact, if laws didn't exist I would've killed and tortured multiple people by now. In what way does the child he supposedly molested have any effect on me?

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>>5830
>I probably am a sociopath. I haven't been diagnosed with ASPD but I could easily see it. I'm also pretty narcissistic in the sense that I do like my own videos (I don't like I'm hot shit but I do moderately enjoy them) and I talk a lot about my own experiences which could easily be construed as narcissism. These are valid claims, I don't have the answers to say whether they're completely true or false. I lean in the direction of agreeing with you but I can't know for sure until I'm older with a larger body of information, experience, and have spoken to a professional about these issues.

I actually wasn't expecting you to reply thank you for manning the fuck up and not being a pussy like Red. Anyhow i'm glad you recognize that you are mentally fucked up in some capacity however i am just going to take this with a huge grain of salt because it honestly sounds like you're just telling me what i want to hear rather than being honest which the nice guy mask is a common thing with psychopaths and sociopaths.

>The reason I banned you Hiki was because you were constantly spamming


Criticism is not spam was i spamming the same LOL faggot comment over and over again? no i wasn't i was giving you legitimate criticism and very recently i just asked you a simple question if anything the whole spamming argument just sounds like a bullshit excuse to keep me off of your channel because you can't take the specific criticisms and questions i throw your way.

> Red has talked in videos about how he bans people who criticize him deliberately, I disagree with him on that personally but I don't care.


He is such a big baby and easy to troll sometimes it is not even funny it is just sad and all i feel for him is pity doesn't he or even you to an extent realize that by making videos on me or talking about me you're giving me the attention i want rule number 1 of the internet don't feed the trolls hell even though the comments on that Reddit post did backfire i still succeeded because i got him to make a video and react which was my goal.

>My unikitty video from 2016 for instance has over 60k views now because of how I marketed it, on the shonen ronin channel I've made a number of viral hits some with over 10k views. If I wanted to game the system I could. I don't want to.


10k views is not viral in-fact that is nothing by modern Youtube standards in 2006 if you had 10k views yeah you would be considered a hit but not on modern Youtubeon modern Youtube 10k views is worthless and means nothing the times have changed since the golden years of Youtube and Youtube died in 2012 when it went full on corporate also there is no point in humble bragging about the various videos you have made that got average views at best.

>I don't care. I could be friends with someone who's shot up a school and I would not care. In fact, if laws didn't exist I would've killed and tortured multiple people by now. In what way does the child he supposedly molested have any effect on me?


Thank you once again for proving my point that you're a potential danger to yourself and society basically a ticking time-bomb also really?? you are waayy to forgiving i think you need to reconsider who your friends are and also develop some common sense morality common decency and respect towards others instead of being a hateful empty shell who cares about nobody also unrelated but kind of related but this is in response to the incel rant on your second channel the reason you get compared to incels or get called one is because you seem to carry bits of the misogynistic blackpill defeatist mindset that incels and robots have and you will not get anywhere in life with that mindset I'm working now and am going to get married soon besides returning to school how have you changed your life? because it doesn't seem like you have you just continue to let social isolation eat you away.

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What is there even to "Youtube" about being a NEET/hikki? It's probably a very boring lifestyle to vlog about. What? Are you gonna show off how many piss bottles you made today or how much anime you've watched this week? Not to mention that Youtube can be a job, basically invalidating their whole status, so what's the point?

 No.5837

>>5835

Fucking this.

 No.5838

>>5835
Attention. They're craving for attention, and they try to appeal others by doing this.

 No.5844

>>5835
Agreed. Some Hikki bloggers make content with creative tools or do cooking videos, but just filming yourself rambling on about your ebil parents or discord clique drama is a total tube clogger

 No.5877

>>5757

This is his only good video.

https://youtu.be/H4cpUrR5EAM

Just walking around a domestic abuse shelter rambling about his ex with some cool cinematography and emotional rants to boot. /feels/

 No.5879

>>5877
fuck off u/Mario_Zimbabwe



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