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 No.5654

Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?

 No.5655


 No.5656

zabujard. He was banned from yt but he's on deviantart and newgrounds

 No.5658

>>5656
>zabujard. He was banned from yt but he's on deviantart and newgrounds

I dont like that guy too edgy for my taste.

 No.5660

All obnoxious norms aside from zabujard

 No.5662

>>5660
>All obnoxious norms aside from zabujard

Zabujard is a faggot.

 No.5663

Not everything needs to be a YouTube channel. It’s a very boring topic to make videos about and if you make money off of it you’re a dumb fake NEET!

 No.5664

>>5663
> if you make money off of it you’re a dumb fake NEET!

I can somewhat agree with that since Youtube is kind of a job and NEETs and Hikis dont have jobs.

 No.5666

>>5664
>NEETs and Hikis dont have jobs
NEETs don't have jobs but hikkis can

 No.5667

Hikkichan wasn't even NEET since she went to school. The entire image people have of her of being either hikikomori or NEET are both wrong.

 No.5669

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>>5666
>NEETs don't have jobs but hikkis can

You do realize if you're working you're still apart of society because weather you want to or not you have pay bills and taxes the whole point of hikikomori is to withdraw from society people who work from home are not hikikomori.





Definition speaking they are all shut-in NEETs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdTZBw5WkeU [Embed]

From Wikipedia

>The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare defines hikikomori as a condition in which the affected individuals refuse to leave their parents' house, do not work or go to school and isolate themselves away from society and family in a single room for a period exceeding six months

 No.5670

>>5667
>Hikkichan wasn't even NEET since she went to school. The entire image people have of her of being either hikikomori or NEET are both wrong.



Thats because Noriko was a persona you retard Noriko was a character created by Ashley Ashley yes was being truthful in her vlogs she had a rough life real mental health problems and was generally a reclusive type of person but the whole female Hikikomori/NEET thing is a persona Noriko Hatakeyama/Hikkichan is a female NEET/Hikikomori where Ashley Hanrahan is not and never was if that makes any sense.

 No.5672

>>5669
I have a question for you, are you considered a hiki if you leave to buy groceries?

 No.5673

>>5672
>I have a question for you, are you considered a hiki if you leave to buy groceries?


I would say yes because most hikikomori actually do still go outside they are just isolated socially they dont work go to school nor have a social life outside the house here is a quote from an article (Quote) “Hikikomori are able to visit places where they feel secure,” says Ikegami, who himself had a period of social withdrawal in his younger days.

“They don’t work or do anything, so they think people are going to criticize them and dismiss them as worthless. They think the people around them will start lecturing them, so they avoid places where people might be,” he says.

“They can go to libraries or convenience stores or train stations — places where they don’t know anyone or where no one is likely to start talking to them,” he says. “Some people might even feel they can go to a convenience store if the clerk is foreign, not Japanese.” (Unquote)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2019/06/01/lifestyle/prison-inside-japans-hikikomori-lack-relationships-not-physical-spaces/#.XVTTqehKjIU

 No.5674

>>5673
Good, you passed the test.

 No.5675

>>5669
>the whole point of hikikomori is to withdraw from society
It's a coping method. There is no single way one is hikikomori aside from the criteria.

"Withdrawing from society" is very subjective and can occur in numerous ways. Everyone would agree, not leaving one's house or room is withdrawing from society, at the very least on a local level. Using that line of reasoning that having a job (or income, by extension) means one is not hikikomori, then if a hikikomori uses the internet or anything provided by the society such as electricity or water then they're participating in the society and thus not hikikomori.

If one were to active contribute to a society while merely being reclusive, then using the term hikikomori may be less clear in that instance. However, not all hikikomori have parents to support them so some means of income may be their only means of survival, even if it's patreon or surveys. There are many examples of ways someone could make money but still not contribute in such a way that would contradict the term hikikomori, for example, cryptocurrency or web design. Those largely do not contribute to the collective in ways most jobs do.

 No.5676

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A real hikikomori doesn't communicate even online, those who claim to be hikikomori, but still have active online lives are posers, these noob losers still have much to strive for to earn the true pro loser title that is "hikikomori".

 No.5677

>>5676

You're a fucking idiot.

 No.5678

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>>5677
I disagree.

 No.5679

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>>5675
>It's a coping method

No it is a psychological condition where a person coops themselves up at home in a single space due to various personal and social issues in their life.

>then if a hikikomori uses the internet or anything provided by the society such as electricity or water then they're participating in the society and thus not hikikomori.


That is a stupid cop out argument that makes no sense the difference is those are basic everyday necessities to survive in the modern world in at least someway where is working a job and attending school is way more interacting with society than any hikikomori ever would.

>not all hikikomori have parents to support them so some means of income may be their only means of survival, even if it's patreon or surveys. There are many examples of ways someone could make money but still not contribute in such a way that would contradict the term hikikomori, for example, cryptocurrency or web design. Those largely do not contribute to the collective in ways most jobs do.



I honestly don't care what kind of industry you're in because there is usually is something you're selling to someone weather that be a service a product or a skill you can do and to do that you need to have interaction with the outside world and employees to make that happen almost every job you work you have customers so you essentially are still contributing to society and still giving back to society and pretty much almost all at home jobs still require you to sometimes leave the house and go to the actual job and they also require you to go to an in person interview and talk to a stranger on the phone which a real hikikomori could not do and true not all hikikomori are supported by their parents but welfare is a thing you know that right? so yeah my point is definition speaking they are all NEETs because hikikomori means not contributing to society did you even watch the video i linked? also lets not derail this thread okay.

 No.5680

>>5678
>I disagree.

Well you're posting here so yeah you're a idiot.

 No.5681

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>>5680
I never claimed to be hikki, silly.

>a idiot

Its "an idiot", dear. Ironic, isn't it?

 No.5682

>>5679
>No it is a psychological condition where a person coops themselves up at home in a single space due to various personal and social issues in their life

What do you think a coping method is then? Facing some trauma or intensely unwanted situation which brings strong emotions and finding some respite from it in some form whether it be alcohol, isolating oneself, or something else.

 No.5683

It'd be wise not to respond to obvious bait.

 No.5696

>>5683
>It'd be wise not to respond to obvious bait.

Not bait.

 No.5757


 No.5775

>>5757

What a pathetic edgy attention whoring money hungry jew.

 No.5802

>>5675

For a long time I used the tag "high-functioning" recluse, because it avoids the whole competition thing of who's a true hikikomori, who's more fucked-up, etc.

Even though I can go outside (having built up my tolerance over a number of years)– it still feels like an away team mission on an alien planet, we're I've got a limited battery pack.

My guess is what I have is some kind of stimuli overload condition– I'll start getting irritable for example if I see a line of ants making their way into a bait trap. I don't even really mind the ants, but it's because they're chaotic doo-dads.

The tech changes drive me nuts too; the microtransactions with online shopping, the people who drag out text conversations over a number of hours. I need the walls to block out the trickles…

 No.5819

>>5757

Star is a Digibro rip-off. His format, editing, the rants, the way he structures his playlists, etc. all reek of Digi idol worship. The problem is that he's just way less interesting than Digi because he's a 17 y/o that has little life experience, and most of that "experience" comes second hand from Digibro, other youtubers, books, media, or other things he consumes. I think he mixes up these second hand experiences for his own, and stretches the truth a bit in his story telling.

Him and other similar hiki/neet youtubers are boring because they gripe about the same shit. Normies and what not. They also sperg out at the slightest bit of criticism. If you don't reply with "comfy" comments (comfiness above all for these thin skinned faggots), then you're just shut out. But honestly that's a problem with most youtube "personalities"… anyone who isn't pleasing them is a "hater" to be ignored/blocked/punished. Youtube and Youtubers are all cancer.

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>>5819
Fucking this best post ever finally somebody said it exactly he is also very narcissistic and pretty much a borderline sociopath as well and that retarded Korean kid named Red continues to suck his and hiding in my rooms dicks both Star and Red ban you outright if you criticize them despite the fact that they want to be famous public figures which shows how SJW they both really are also i gave Red advice on how to change his life and he just spat in my face even though i did care about him and tried to help him he just refuses to change his life and grow up and Star and his other friends just enable his toxic behavior at least i am trying to change my life for the better so i can be happy unlike these fucking losers who carry the misogynistic black pill incel defeatist mindset and at least i am not the one who is friends with a child molesting rapist unlike these kids and Red isn't even a real Neet he has and has always had a job you cant be Neet and have a job it doesn't work like that and hes always had this job ever since i met him 1 year ago if you wanna get technical about this shit they literally are no different than Noriko/Hikichan because just like her they are also attention seeking whores.

 No.5827

>>5819
>Child molesting rapist
Do you mean Digibro or some other guy?

 No.5828

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned chad marco yet since some of the content he posts seems pretty good.

 No.5829

>>5819


>Star is a Digibro rip-off. His format, editing, the rants, the way he structures his playlists, etc. all reek of Digi idol worship.


I have not liked the bulk of Digibro's videos for over a year now. I have been absurdly vocal in my criticism of him.

My editing is definitely similar. But that's mostly because I'm lazy and don't enjoy editing very much so I do the most rudimentary things editing wise which happen to also occur in a lot of his videos.

As for the playlists, the reason I use them is because they're good playlists. I like the idea. They work well. And I don't make it a secret that I got the idea from him because that seems a little insecure. Why not wear the influence on your sleeve? Leave credit where it is due? You can be your own individual while also doing this.

To say that my videos are the format as Digi however I think is a bit unfair. Digi makes an explicit effort to make his vlogs HD, to have a coherent topic, to be marketable, analytical, and so on. I'm over here just pointing my camera and stuff and saying words. I talk about life lore because that's what I value the most in YouTube content which Digi has deliberately not done for quite some time now. I enjoy people's mundane lives, the most raw expressions of them. Of course people would find that boring, my interests are autistic as fuck. But I don't make videos with the intention of them being for other people. I do them because there's a style I like and because I like seeing that style. If there are other people in the world who enjoy something that niche as much as me, great! If they don't, well, it wasn't for you in the first place.

>The problem is that he's just way less interesting than Digi because he's a 17 y/o that has little life experience, and most of that "experience" comes second hand from Digibro, other youtubers, books, media, or other things he consumes.


You're absolutely right. I have far more life experience than most people my age mostly because of being forced to move to so many different states and having to take care of my parent's mental health problems/financial issues and a number of other things but that doesn't change the basic fact that I am too young to tell the kinds of stories someone in their 30s would be able to tell with the body of experience that it would require to put them into context.

However, I do think I have some videos (like being an archive for instace) that have ideas in them that have not been expressed anywhere else on youtube but those are free and far between from my normal re-contextualizations of information that already exists.

>I think he mixes up these second hand experiences for his own, and stretches the truth a bit in his story telling.


Could you give an example?

>Him and other similar hiki/neet youtubers are boring because they gripe about the same shit. Normies and what not.


Completely understandable. These are the things I'm interested in and my channel is meant to be an unwashed archive of my thought processes incorrect and correct, strange and not so strange. It's a niche type of video, intentionally bad even. I'm just autistic.

I'm not going to be able to tell you what is correct and what isn't, I don't have the capacity to do that. I can only point to what patterns or consistencies I've noticed in my own feelings which are as you've probably guessed completely worthless unless you're trying to understand me or people who in some way similar.

>They also sperg out at the slightest bit of criticism. If you don't reply with "comfy" comments (comfiness above all for these thin skinned faggots), then you're just shut out.


I tend to keep up the majority of my comments except people who are spamming over and over again. I'm not sure where this idea comes from that I can't take criticism comes from. I've probably done something like what you describe in the past but I don't remember it. You'll find negative comments on my videos. It's just that I don't get them often so there usually aren't any. I also provide big replies like this one you're seeing right now. If that's sperging out then okay I can see it within that definition but I associate the term more with overt anger and suppression, not attempts at dialogue.

>But honestly that's a problem with most youtube "personalities"… anyone who isn't pleasing them is a "hater" to be ignored/blocked/punished.


I don't like this either. Which is why I don't do it. Comments directly effect a videos quality and part of that is having vibrant discussion that includes opposing view points. Everyone who disagrees with me is someone I can discuss these things with. And I often learn from interacting with them. Which isn't dissimilar to when I scroll down to the comments of a YouTuber I enjoy and read debate that adds to my understanding of that video. These are very valuable things.

 No.5830

>>5825

>he is also very narcissistic and pretty much a borderline sociopath


I probably am a sociopath. I haven't been diagnosed with ASPD but I could easily see it. I'm also pretty narcissistic in the sense that I do like my own videos (I don't like I'm hot shit but I do moderately enjoy them) and I talk a lot about my own experiences which could easily be construed as narcissism. These are valid claims, I don't have the answers to say whether they're completely true or false. I lean in the direction of agreeing with you but I can't know for sure until I'm older with a larger body of information, experience, and have spoken to a professional about these issues.


>both Star and Red ban you outright if you criticize them


I respond to criticism regularly in comments. The reason I banned you Hiki was because you were constantly spamming. Red has talked in videos about how he bans people who criticize him deliberately, I disagree with him on that personally but I don't care.

>despite the fact that they want to be famous public figures which shows how SJW they both really are


Do you have a quote or a video where I say I want to be a famous public figure? I could give you a litany of videos where in the title alone I chastise this idea, railing against it entirely. Who else has not one but two videos telling their audience to unsubscribe? If I wanted subs, I would be doing things very differently on my channel. My unikitty video from 2016 for instance has over 60k views now because of how I marketed it, on the shonen ronin channel I've made a number of viral hits some with over 10k views. If I wanted to game the system I could. I don't want to.

>and at least i am not the one who is friends with a child molesting rapist unlike these kids


I don't care. I could be friends with someone who's shot up a school and I would not care. In fact, if laws didn't exist I would've killed and tortured multiple people by now. In what way does the child he supposedly molested have any effect on me?

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>>5830
>I probably am a sociopath. I haven't been diagnosed with ASPD but I could easily see it. I'm also pretty narcissistic in the sense that I do like my own videos (I don't like I'm hot shit but I do moderately enjoy them) and I talk a lot about my own experiences which could easily be construed as narcissism. These are valid claims, I don't have the answers to say whether they're completely true or false. I lean in the direction of agreeing with you but I can't know for sure until I'm older with a larger body of information, experience, and have spoken to a professional about these issues.

I actually wasn't expecting you to reply thank you for manning the fuck up and not being a pussy like Red. Anyhow i'm glad you recognize that you are mentally fucked up in some capacity however i am just going to take this with a huge grain of salt because it honestly sounds like you're just telling me what i want to hear rather than being honest which the nice guy mask is a common thing with psychopaths and sociopaths.

>The reason I banned you Hiki was because you were constantly spamming


Criticism is not spam was i spamming the same LOL faggot comment over and over again? no i wasn't i was giving you legitimate criticism and very recently i just asked you a simple question if anything the whole spamming argument just sounds like a bullshit excuse to keep me off of your channel because you can't take the specific criticisms and questions i throw your way.

> Red has talked in videos about how he bans people who criticize him deliberately, I disagree with him on that personally but I don't care.


He is such a big baby and easy to troll sometimes it is not even funny it is just sad and all i feel for him is pity doesn't he or even you to an extent realize that by making videos on me or talking about me you're giving me the attention i want rule number 1 of the internet don't feed the trolls hell even though the comments on that Reddit post did backfire i still succeeded because i got him to make a video and react which was my goal.

>My unikitty video from 2016 for instance has over 60k views now because of how I marketed it, on the shonen ronin channel I've made a number of viral hits some with over 10k views. If I wanted to game the system I could. I don't want to.


10k views is not viral in-fact that is nothing by modern Youtube standards in 2006 if you had 10k views yeah you would be considered a hit but not on modern Youtubeon modern Youtube 10k views is worthless and means nothing the times have changed since the golden years of Youtube and Youtube died in 2012 when it went full on corporate also there is no point in humble bragging about the various videos you have made that got average views at best.

>I don't care. I could be friends with someone who's shot up a school and I would not care. In fact, if laws didn't exist I would've killed and tortured multiple people by now. In what way does the child he supposedly molested have any effect on me?


Thank you once again for proving my point that you're a potential danger to yourself and society basically a ticking time-bomb also really?? you are waayy to forgiving i think you need to reconsider who your friends are and also develop some common sense morality common decency and respect towards others instead of being a hateful empty shell who cares about nobody also unrelated but kind of related but this is in response to the incel rant on your second channel the reason you get compared to incels or get called one is because you seem to carry bits of the misogynistic blackpill defeatist mindset that incels and robots have and you will not get anywhere in life with that mindset I'm working now and am going to get married soon besides returning to school how have you changed your life? because it doesn't seem like you have you just continue to let social isolation eat you away.

 No.5835

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What is there even to "Youtube" about being a NEET/hikki? It's probably a very boring lifestyle to vlog about. What? Are you gonna show off how many piss bottles you made today or how much anime you've watched this week? Not to mention that Youtube can be a job, basically invalidating their whole status, so what's the point?

 No.5837

>>5835

Fucking this.

 No.5838

>>5835
Attention. They're craving for attention, and they try to appeal others by doing this.

 No.5844

>>5835
Agreed. Some Hikki bloggers make content with creative tools or do cooking videos, but just filming yourself rambling on about your ebil parents or discord clique drama is a total tube clogger

 No.5877

>>5757

This is his only good video.

https://youtu.be/H4cpUrR5EAM

Just walking around a domestic abuse shelter rambling about his ex with some cool cinematography and emotional rants to boot. /feels/

 No.5879

>>5877
fuck off u/Mario_Zimbabwe

 No.5906

>>5844
>Agreed. Some Hikki bloggers make content with creative tools or do cooking videos, but just filming yourself rambling on about your ebil parents or discord clique drama is a total tube clogger

This.

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>>5879

>Going on reddit

 No.5992

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>>5829
Probably going to get slammed for this here. But I'm worried about Star. His recent videos and streams have been very dark with this opioid addiction. I see myself in him and just want to give him a hug. I'm afraid he's going to die before someone who has the resources and is empathetic enough to be there for him–if he even wants that–can get to him.

I wish I could be that person at least a little bit. Maybe smoke weed with him and chill. I feel so trapped, am a neet hundreds of miles away with no car.

If you read this, I know you think your younger self was naive. And I'm not trying to come off as condescending, I genuinely care. But there is more to life than dying in your 20s from an OD and I think–I could be wrong I haven't seen *all* your vids–your younger self knew that. It wasn't naive, your just in a pit that's clouding your judgment because this society is sick and has fucked you over since the day you were born.

If I ever somehow crawl out of my own pit and get that car I'd come down to Kentucky just to give you a hug for 5 minutes than drive off if you wanted. I know you don't like people generally, but I remember you saying you liked being hugged.

If I sound psychotic right now it's only because this society doesn't value empathy. We're supposed to care about each other and feel the need to go to the ends of the Earth for each other. Because I see myself in you when you are in pain it hurts me, however little that might be through the wires leading to my computer screen. It's not pity, its solidarity and care for myself aswell.

All in all, I genuinely hope, nay pray, that once you get your autismbucks and the state fucks off with trying to force you into school that your life improves, even if only marginally. I wanted to send this through a dm, but didn't want to out myself because I have no idea how you'll respond. It's only a sentiment right now, I've got no resources to help. Maybe one day if we're still both alive.

 No.5994

>>5992

You're a dumb fuck anon that evil sociopath is manipulating you to make you feel sorry for him and give him money and other stuff he wants. Who gives a shit if this manipulative narcissistic lying piece of edgy human shit spoiled brat dies just another monster gone from the world.

 No.5995

>>5994
Although your post is relatively harsh and written as if you are a toxic teenager, I have to admit that you're right. Nobody deserves empathy or love but yourself.

 No.5998

>>5995
>Although your post is relatively harsh and written as if you are a toxic teenager

Ironic that you say that considering that is exactly what Star and his friends are toxic edgy teenagers who larp as Neets because they want attention.

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This thread is the tumblr of uboachan

 No.6003

>>6000

This entire board is reddit tumblr Youtube zoomer snowflakes who larp as hikikomori and NEETs because they want attention and normalfags giving shitty advice to these stupid bratty kids who refuse to grow up most English hiki/Neet communes are full of fake people who are just larping.

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>>6003
>>5994
>>5995
>>5998
>>6000
Speak for yourselves. I made that post because I care. I'm not larping, I am a NEET. Not defending everything Star does. But those of you making certain claims are a taking a stretch. He doesn't fit the exact definition of NEET only because the state forces him into school under threat of financial destruction, that's not the same as not being a tvru NEET. I have never given him money. There's a lot of resentment in this thread right now and I don't know what he did to tip some of you off, if anything, or if its just one's own insecurities talking. I'd give you all a hug if you wanted one and the opportunity presented itself. We don't have to wallow in our pits of despair completely alone.

As for his edge and cringe at times, we can all be that way. In fact some of the replies to my post were that way. Nomatter, he's 17 and you have to meet people where they're at if you expect them to grow. I've watched enough of his content to get the picture that he is mostly authentic. There's genuine autism in that boy.

 No.6016

Kinda weird to see that Infinite Outlaw/Star is still around after we stopped talking. Last I heard of him he had run away from home due to his awful parents or something. Hope he's doing alright.

 No.6020

>>6016
>Kinda weird to see that Infinite Outlaw/Star is still around after we stopped talking. Last I heard of him he had run away from home due to his awful parents or something. Hope he's doing alright.

Who gives a shit anon hes a piece of shit.

 No.6021

>>5992
>have been very dark with this opioid addiction
>Maybe smoke weed with him
anon..

 No.6030

>>5992
Not him but I really could use your help, anon. You seem caring and empathetic. Fuck, life sucks.

 No.6033

>>5992
When does he mention abusing opioids? How did he even get them?

 No.6042

can anyone recommend a neet to watch? i want to simulate having a friend

 No.6044

>>6042
>can anyone recommend a neet to watch? i want to simulate having a friend

Neet Youtubers are not interesting to watch not everything has to be a reality TV show and most of these Neet Youtubers are just teenage attention whores and not even real Neets at all YouTube might not be a traditional job but if they are making money from it it's still a job.

 No.6045

>>6042
KingCobraJFS
Dragonlordfrodo

 No.6046

late to the neet gatekeeping discussion, but unless your parents are wealthy/well off/don't utterly hate you, you're not going to be able to be a ""proper"" hikki/neet lol. it's unrealistic

 No.6047

>>6046
maybe i just feel called out, but i am definitely a hikki even if i go to school. i don't leave the house when the semester isn't in session, unless i need to buy myself toilet paper or something (there is nobody around to do it for me). i don't speak to anyone. i go through life as a ghost to everyone else. you can definitely be in society while being withdrawn, in the same way you can sit in a pool without swimming.

thank you

 No.6048

>>6047
>maybe i just feel called out, but i am definitely a hikki even if i go to school
Sorry, but that's not how it works. Stop labeling yourself with trendy words on the internet. You are probably asocial and have or aren't interested on interpersonal relationships, that doesn't make you a hikikomori.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

>reclusive adolescents or adults who withdraw from society and seek extreme degrees of isolation and confinement.


>do not work or go to school and isolate themselves away from society and family in a single room for a period exceeding six months.


Being insecure and depressed or socially inept doesn't make you a hikikomori, your situation may be bad but you have to descend way deeper in that rabbit hole to get there, and no, you don't want to. No one wants that crap.

 No.6051

>>6047
> i am definitely a hikki even if i go to school

No you're not a hikikomori is a Japanese NEEt who doesn't leave their bedroom for six months.

 No.6053

>>6049

Fucking this these stupid normies edgy 4chan kids and cringy depressed emo kids making videos on YouTube for money and attention need to fucking stop calling themselves Neet or hikikomori because they are NOT being a reclusive introvert or hermit doesn't make you a hikikomori and if you're working you're still contributing to society therefore you are NOT a Neet and yes YouTube while not a traditional job it is still a job regardless.

 No.6056

>>6049
>>6048
did neither of you read my post? if you don't have parents to support you, how else are you going to survive? can you be a hikkineet while homeless?

 No.6058

>>6056
> if you don't have parents to support you, how else are you going to survive? can you be a hikkineet while homeless?


By definition all hikikomori are Neets and the parents or someone else supports the child.

 No.6060

>>6058
Couldn't someone that works from home be a hikikomori at the same time?

 No.6061

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>>6060
>Couldn't someone that works from home be a hikikomori at the same time?


No the whole point of being a hikikomori is extreme social isolation and the withdrawal of the individual makes it hard for them to even work or go to school or socialize in the first place because they are so dysfunctional of a person. It is basically similar to chronic depression and hikikomori are very emotionally sensitive people either due to a bad upbringing or something bad that happened in the past. These sociopathic narcissistic Youtubers are not hikikomori because they are not emotionally sensitive and bully others who are just like them therefore they don't actually know what it is like and just call themselves hikikomori to sound cool. On the topic of people working from home those types of recluses aren't hikikomori having a job means you are still linked to society. You still have a role in society and that you are still giving back to society and contributing to it in someway there are different Japanese words to describe these types of recluses as well 隠者 Hermit Recluse 世捨て人 Agoraphobia 広場恐怖症 Otaku オタク 社会不安 Social Anxiety if you work and or willingly leave your house regularly to socialize you're not a hikikomori being a depressed introvert or a young zoomer who is addicted to social media and the internet are not the same thing as being a hikikomori being a hikikomori is a psychological problem caused by various social personal and psychological factors.

 No.6063

>>6058
you still haven't answered my question, lol, so i must be right. being able to not work must be nice, but some of us hikkis do so we don't starve. have a nice day

 No.6064

How can people still confuse hikki and neet definitions, it isn’t that hard to understand. The terms are not really interchangeable.

Hikkis are alike hermits, they isolate themselves away from the outside world. It’s a Japanese word for shut-ins. In Japan some hikkis are still in school, they just don’t go, sometimes for many years. There, some have actually taken online courses, others are working like in IT after being allowed by companies to work from home. They can work and be in school, they either don’t go or do so without leaving the place where they’re confined.

Neets are people that don’t work, don’t go to school, don’t follow any kind of vocational training, or anything similar to these. They can take a pretty normal life, they just don’t do anything work/education related.

Due to the conditions that both these situations put people through, they are likely to develop the other, as in becoming both a hikki and a neet.

>>6047
You’re not a hikki or a neet since you leave for school. Just a very isolated individual.

>>6056
Homeless people can be neets if they aren’t following any of those help programs, but they can’t be hikkis since they aren’t actually confined and isolated from other people and the outside world.

>>6060
If they really never leave the house, yes, they are. But they aren’t neets.

 No.6065

>>6063
>>6064



Refer to these post you fucking retards.



>>6061
>>6049
>>5679
>>5669

 No.6067

We're not making any progress, I think we should drop it before certain two people start posting Corey.

 No.6068

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>>6067
I'm glad you still remember me

 No.6069

>>6067
>We're not making any progress, I think we should drop it before certain two people start posting Corey.


Not an argument.

 No.6070

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>>6063
>>6064

From Japanese Wikipedia.

引きこもり(引き籠もり[1]、ひきこもり、英語表記 hikikomori[2])とは、仕事や学校に行けず家に籠り、家族以外とほとんど交流がない人の状況を指す。現時点では、日本の厚生労働省はこうした状態が6か月以上続いた場合を定義としている

Acute Social Withdrawal (Withdrawal [1], Withdrawal English notation hikikomori [2]) refers to situations where people cannot go to work or school, stay at home, and have little interaction with their family. At present, the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare defines these conditions as having lasted for more than six months.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/引きこもり

https://www.obatakazuki.com/hikikomori-genin

引きこもりの定義と全国の引きこもりに関するデータ

厚生労働省では『仕事や学校に行かず、かつ家族以外の人との交流をほとんどせずに、6か月以上続けて自宅にひきこもっている状態』の人を引きこもりと定義しています


より詳しい定義は以下の4つです。

ふだんは家にいるが、近所のコンビニなどには出かける
自室からは出るが、家からは出ない
自室からほとんど出ない
ふだんは家にいるが、自分の趣味に関する用事の時だけ外出する(準引きこもり)

Definition of withdrawal and national withdrawal data

The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare defines withdrawal a person who has been withdrawing from home for at least 6 months without going to work or school and having little interaction with people other than their family.

The four more detailed definitions are:

I'm usually at home, but I go to a convenience store in my neighborhood
I leave my room but not from home
Hardly leave my room
I usually stay at home, but only go out for errands related to my hobby (semi-withdrawal)

 No.6077

>>6049
I never made a myspace, facebook or anything else. I've literally been cocooned in my room and never came out. My only outlet to the outside world is these anonymous forums.

 No.6082

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>>6077
>I never made a myspace, facebook or anything else. I've literally been cocooned in my room and never came out. My only outlet to the outside world is these anonymous forums.


It was like this for me too back between 2016-early 2017 i had no online social interaction outside of places like this but later in 2017 i started participating in actual NEET communities but stopped and left after doing it for about a year and a half. They are toxic abusive manipulative narcissistic and many of them are not real NEETs or hikikomori at all. Nobody outside Japan is a real hikikomori and the few cases that do exist overseas are just that isolated cases. While i still comeback to these anonymous forums sometimes for the most part i am very avoidant nowadays and have a hard time connecting with or relating to NEETs from my own culture because of how rude mean and manipulative they are. As a foreigner who has spent time in Japanese Neet servers and on websites i have noticed a big difference between Neets in Japan and the west Japanese Neets are very introverted like to keep to themselves and usually do not talk much and for the most part are friendly and respectful where as English speaking Neets are very social and outgoing and a lot ruder mean and like to trash talk i think this is probably because of the cultural differences between the east and the west to be honest. I have never ever liked the aggressive brutally honest attitude people in my own culture have it is part of the reason i withdrew in my room i am very introverted but also very emotionally sensitive and i have social anxiety disorder depression and autism and as a child i grew up in a strict family environment so i can relate a lot more to Japanese NEETs in that regard and i have a lot of respect for them because of how respectful they are unlike western NEETs empathy and sympathy are truly lacking in our modern society today because of modern technology and if assholes like >>5830 were actually a real NEET or hikikomori you would think they would be a bit more sympathetic and understanding because we are supposedly going through the same problems but no assholes like this larp as NEET?Hikikomori because they are edgy teens who want attention and they bully others who are supposedly just like them.

 No.6096

I don't worship jewtube celebrities. No one that vain would be worth my time.

 No.6101

>>6096
>I don't worship jewtube celebrities. No one that vain would be worth my time.


Same.

 No.6212

Comfy Neet and Sunny are the best neet youtubers.

 No.6214

Star-chan is the cutest!!!

 No.6216

>>6082
>you would think they would be a bit more sympathetic and understanding because we are supposedly going through the same problems
A lot of unhappy people that aren't normalfags are like this for some reason and I never understood it. You would think there would be some kind of camaraderie or something but there isn't, just angst directed at the people you should be considering your friends.

 No.6217

>>5655
>?disable_polymer=1
Thank you for reminding me this is all I need to fix youtube's headache inducing redesign



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